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    DES for injuries or IGF LR3?

    DES for injuries or IGF LR3?
    Anyone have experience with this?

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    DES isn't good for injury as its life is only minutes unlike LR3 life is 20-30 minutes.Iv tried this myself and LR3 was king for this.

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    Yep. LR3 is where it's at.

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    Typo the lr3 is 20-30 hours.

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    ^^^ sure is.. didn't even notice that.

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    since lr3 active life span is 20-30 hrs, does that mean once per day protocal? is there another pep that has a synergistic properties when run in conjunction with lr3 ?

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    There are nice cycle layouts that leave us open to options.. Here's my favorite,

    IGF Des Pre-workout
    MGF post workout
    wait 15 - 20 mins. pin ghrp/ghrh combo
    15-20 minutes pin IGF lr3

    Peg MGF on your off days.

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    If you want to run just one compound, I highly suggest IGF-1 LR3. If you want to do something that does not require the use of carbs after injection like LR3 does, I suggest a combo of CJC-1295/Ipa or GHRP-2/Ipamorelin. I did the former and I did get some nice relief. Another option my rat is currently getting amazing results from is TB-500, it is once a week.
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    Thank you Pittsburgh63 and oufinny, that helps me narrow my reading to a more specific group of peptides.

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    Happy to help brother.. don't hesitate if you need any questions answered down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riles View Post
    Thank you Pittsburgh63 and oufinny, that helps me narrow my reading to a more specific group of peptides.
    You must not like my info LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by aminoman74 View Post
    You must not like my info LOL
    I apologize aminoman74, I appreciate your input also, thank you

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    I think the regular MGF would be a waste for healing an injury other than muscular in nature. The circulation in the white connective tissue is too low for it to actually receive much of it and instead it would be absorbed by damaged muscle tissue instead. However the Peg MGF would be great for injury recovery, and probably more so than IGF-1 Lr3, since MGF is specifically meant to heal and repair damaged tissue. However the 2 of them combined is one hell of a good combination for both healing and growth.

    The TB500 is also supposed to be really good and I know Houston said his elbow has improved even more since he has been on it. Doses are up in the air here. Some say do 10mg week one and 5mg for the next 5 weeks then you find others who do well off of 6 weeks at 2g per week. There is a small amount of anabolism and some elevated fat burning to be experienced as well but it is a secondary effect.
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    Heres the correct answer to your question..... the above advice is wrong

    TGF-ß during inflammatory phase of the injury, and then DES for tendon repair and growth as it has shown to have the highest ability of collagen synthesis out of the 10 major growth factors that effect tendon repair after injury.

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    Last edited by TwisT; 03-21-2012 at 01:33 PM.


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    Thanks TwisT, I'm affraid when I'm done educating myself on healing specific peps my current injuries will be gtg. Oh well, education is priceless and I wont kid myself about being injury free forever, thanks again

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