Is igf-1 DES much better then igf1-LR3?

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    Is igf-1 DES much better then igf1-LR3?

    Does one put more size on then the other?How about for pumps and fat burning effects?Iv seen where some do 80 mcgs pre workout is this true?

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    Lr3 is alot better then DES as lr3 is systematic for 20-30 hours as des is active for 10 minutes.

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    Like Twist said..there two different animals

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwisT View Post
    Is an apple better then a pear?
    TwisT nailed it - the difference in half life and structure makes for pretty big differences in results. In my experience, LR3 was better at keeping me lean while maintaining size due probably to the long-lasting nutrient shuttling actions of IGF1-LR3. Des, on the other hand was much more effective for site enhancement (still not an extreme change, but noticeable growth in muscles that were pinned), and gave me a more pronounced fullness than LR3. So to compare the two and try to find one that is "better" you need to have specific goals in mind

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    I never seen much with DES.other then for muscle pumps.Other then that I would use lr3 hands down.

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    Hey guys, my first post, although I've been researching various things on the forums before. Question about igf1 lr3, i read dat's forums , I'm taking ghrp2,cjc 1294 without dac and I have igf1 lr3. Goals are to build muscle, lose fat. I normally train an hour after I wake up. So, I was thinking pin with igf1 lr3 as soon as i wake up, train, take ghrp2 post workout with protein shake and high glycemic carbs. Then when I go to bed just take ghrp2 and cjc 1295 without dac. I would take 40- 50 mcg of igf1 lr3 into the muscle, split up the pinning(pin cushion I will be). Any suggestions would be appreciated from you guys. Thanks!

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    I meant cjc 1295! sory :/

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    Oh, and I was gonna take the igf1 lr3 for 4 weeks, but how long of a break do I need to take before going back on. From my understanding, it stops working after that time. And, how many hours away from the ghrp's do you have to keep them separated for efficient results?

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    GHRP2 should be taken with cjc postworkout and avoid carbs for 30mins. IGF lr3 preworkout as stated is fine. And most cycle it 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 137Boulder View Post
    Oh, and I was gonna take the igf1 lr3 for 4 weeks, but how long of a break do I need to take before going back on. From my understanding, it stops working after that time. And, how many hours away from the ghrp's do you have to keep them separated for efficient results?
    I would workout.. then wait 15-20 minutes to let your natty MGF levels peak. Then administer your GHRP/GHRH combo and wait another 15-20 minutes. Then administer your IGF lr3.

    4-5 on with equal time off is pretty standard for the IGF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 137Boulder View Post
    Oh, and I was gonna take the igf1 lr3 for 4 weeks, but how long of a break do I need to take before going back on. From my understanding, it stops working after that time. And, how many hours away from the ghrp's do you have to keep them separated for efficient results?
    Wait 15 minutes in between each one

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    Quote Originally Posted by emitecaps View Post
    GHRP2 should be taken with cjc postworkout and avoid carbs for 30mins. IGF lr3 preworkout as stated is fine. And most cycle it 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off.
    If you take lr3 pre workout it will cancle mgf out .Wait 10 minutes in between each

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    How are you Lr3 users administering it? Subq or IM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teezhay View Post
    How are you Lr3 users administering it? Subq or IM?
    Subq for this guy.

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