I know this is a long post for my first post but I hope some of
the true vets out there can have a solid read through and support
with some honest advice / feedback and let me know if I am on track
with my "first time stack or cycle."
I see most people are pretty general with their posts and I figured
if I give full disclosure of everything so I can receive best feedback
from those that take the time to read this.
I thank you all in advance.
I`ll start with some background info and then move into my first stack
combo, followed by some additional questions.
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Background....
1) Age: 34
2) Weight: 174 lbs
3) Body Fat: 8.74%
3) Years of Consistent Training experience: 1+
4) Previous Cycle experience: "First timer" "None"
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Training Routine:
Train 6 Days a week (5x Workout split and 2-3x Cardio)
Sample Current Scedule
Mondays: Shoulders and HITT Training n Abs
Tuesdays: Bi's n Tri's
Wednesdays: Legs and 20 min HITT Training n Abs
Thursdays: Back n Bi's
Fridays: Chest n Abs
Saturday: HITT Training
Sunday: Rest Days
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Diet: 40-40-20 (Protein-Carbs-Fats)
I eat lean and train mean. I think I've had a cheat
meal twice in the last 4 months. I've mastered clean
eating and learned to love eating great tasting healthy
foods daily so the needs to cheat is no longer an issue
for me.
I track everything I eat with LoseIt app on my iPhone.
I weight and measure everything that goes into my body
so I can adjust when results come to a halt.
Some days I wll eat 50-30-20 ratio if only doing cardio.
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Daily Average Nutrition Schedule: Currently 2600 calories (deficit)
Breakfast
Pre-Workout Meal
5g of Glutamine
5g of Creatine
5g of Leucine
5g of Arginine
Pre-workout Shake
Workout 45-55 min max
Post Workout Meal
10g of Glutamine
5g of Creatine
5g of Leucine
Post Workout Shake
Lunch + 5g of Glutamine
Dinner + 5g of Glutamine
Snack
Night time
Caesin Shake
5g of Arginine
5g of Glutamine
Water: I drink like a fish daily, 1 1/2 - 2 gallons
daily.
Right now still eating at a slight calorie deficiet till
I reach 5-6% bodyfat. I know if I do this stack I would
be bumping up the calories over 3K to add the mass during
cycle.
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Body and Body Fat Measurements:
These are done every Sunday as soon as the wife and I
wake up we do our weekly body and body fat measurements
and track. This way we can see when we need to rise or
lower calories based on weekly progress.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
My Ideal Goal for Stack:
So I've been doing a lot of research. This site honestly
rocks. It took many hours of reading to catch up and
educate myself on how to start my first cycle.
I've been training natural my entire life. My goal is NOT
to pack on heaps of LMM but add some respectable size that
I hope I can maintain after my gains.
As you seen above I am currently 174 lbs at the time of this
entry and 8.74% body fat. I am getting close to my goal of
5-6% I've been aiming for.
I would honestly love to be around 185 lbs and 5-6% body fat
and maintain that. So as said not looking to turn into a
freak (yet... who knows this stuff could be like getting
your first tattoo... then you want another and so on).
--------------------------------------------------------------------
My Stack Based on Research here:
So this may be a bit overkill to my goals listed above but
I will let you veterinarians help guide me if I have steered
in wrong direction.
I've always been one to research anything before trying things
out. So hopefully what I have come up with is smart for first
cycle.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Super-Dmz Mass Stack w/ Formeron:
Super-DMZ Rx - 1 bottle
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 1 bottle
Ultra Male Rx - 1 bottle
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 1 bottle
E-Control Rx - 1 bottle
Black Lion Research Formeron- 1 120mL bottle (or two if need it)
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FIRST 4 WEEKS:
Super-DMZ Rx Rx - 2 caps daily (1 cap AM / 1 cap PM)
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily
Black Lion Research Formeron - 1 pump daily (1-2ml) apply after a shower for best results
Creatine 5g x 2 daily
Glutamine 5g x 3 and 10g x 1 daily
Leucine 5g x 2 daily
Arginine 5g x 2 daily
Multi-Vitamin 1x Daily
Vitamin C 2-3g Daily
Calcium 2-3g Daily
Potassium - Unsure daily required amount 1 tsp (3.48g) 3-4 x daily? Required first four weeks?
Taurine - AllMax 3g x 3 daily? Breakfast / 30 Min prior to workouts / Dinner
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LAST 4 WEEKS:
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily
E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily (last 3 weeks)
Clomid 100mg ED first week, 75mg/50/50
Black Lion Research Formeron - 1-2 (1-2ml) pumps per day transdermally apply after a shower for best results
Creatine 5g x 2 daily
Glutamine 5g x 3 and 10g x 1 daily
Leucine 5g x 2 daily
Arginine 5g x 2 daily
Multi-Vitamin 1x daily
Vitamin C 2-3g Daily
Calcium 2-3g Daily
Potassium - Unsure daily required amount 1 tsp (3.48g) 3-4 x daily?
Taurine - AllMax 3g daily? 30 Min prior to workouts
Allmax Pro-Competition Series Liver D-Tox (21 Day Supply) contain 380 mg Milk Thistle as well
Also read Liv52 is good for liver support
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Your Insights on Stack:
So after my hours of researching and reading this is the stack
I have come up with. Please review and advise what you guys
think. Again this will be my first time trying this and not
looking to sick gains of 25-30 lbs of lean muscle mass but from
what I have read about other using similar stack it has that
ability to do so.
My main goal at the end of stack and long after PCT would be
maintain an ideal weight around 185 lbs and 5-6% with great
definition and strength.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Questions:
1) I am NOT a fan of using needles and you will see I have not
added any Test or HCG to the above. If I choose to not use
one, is there an alternative to these and using needles or
two, okay to not incorporate at all with lil sides effects to
this stack?
2) How does my PCT look? I am okay with honesty guys. I am
noob here and want to make the right decisions and purchase
everything when I KNOW I am moving in the right direction.
3) Another question in mind with doing a cycle like this. How
long after would it be safe to try to "conceive" if one wants
to have a baby down the road still? Or better yet can you
still have one after doing this stuff?
4) The way this stack is laid out will this help with suppression?
How long does suppression last will doing cycle like this?
5) What else might I be missing from this stack? I think I've
covered everything off but that is why I've taken the time to
write this long post to make sure I do this RIGHT first time
around unlike people that rush in and make mistakes.
6) Ance: Will taking 6-9g of Taurine help prevent acne or backne?
Should I also add in any other supps to assist with acne prevention?
7) AI Support: I've read great things about using Black Lion
Research Formeron. I know it great for helping to tighten or
taper everything down and even helps with gyno bit. Should I
stock anything else in case of gyno or like Nova? It seems from
what I've read that this is much safer and better results. You
guys would know this best?
8) Would be be my ideal LBM I should shoot for if I would like
to maintain around 185 and 5-6% BF. I don`t know how much
I can maintain after since I have never done this before.
I do train hard and lots of intensity. Always use strick form
(no swinging weights, slow and controlled movements).
Again sorry if too long a post but I wanna do this right when I am
ready to start. Thank you for taking the time to read and add your
input. It is much appreciated.
JohnyB
the true vets out there can have a solid read through and support
with some honest advice / feedback and let me know if I am on track
with my "first time stack or cycle."
I see most people are pretty general with their posts and I figured
if I give full disclosure of everything so I can receive best feedback
from those that take the time to read this.
I thank you all in advance.
I`ll start with some background info and then move into my first stack
combo, followed by some additional questions.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Background....
1) Age: 34
2) Weight: 174 lbs
3) Body Fat: 8.74%
3) Years of Consistent Training experience: 1+
4) Previous Cycle experience: "First timer" "None"
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Training Routine:
Train 6 Days a week (5x Workout split and 2-3x Cardio)
Sample Current Scedule
Mondays: Shoulders and HITT Training n Abs
Tuesdays: Bi's n Tri's
Wednesdays: Legs and 20 min HITT Training n Abs
Thursdays: Back n Bi's
Fridays: Chest n Abs
Saturday: HITT Training
Sunday: Rest Days
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Diet: 40-40-20 (Protein-Carbs-Fats)
I eat lean and train mean. I think I've had a cheat
meal twice in the last 4 months. I've mastered clean
eating and learned to love eating great tasting healthy
foods daily so the needs to cheat is no longer an issue
for me.
I track everything I eat with LoseIt app on my iPhone.
I weight and measure everything that goes into my body
so I can adjust when results come to a halt.
Some days I wll eat 50-30-20 ratio if only doing cardio.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Daily Average Nutrition Schedule: Currently 2600 calories (deficit)
Breakfast
Pre-Workout Meal
5g of Glutamine
5g of Creatine
5g of Leucine
5g of Arginine
Pre-workout Shake
Workout 45-55 min max
Post Workout Meal
10g of Glutamine
5g of Creatine
5g of Leucine
Post Workout Shake
Lunch + 5g of Glutamine
Dinner + 5g of Glutamine
Snack
Night time
Caesin Shake
5g of Arginine
5g of Glutamine
Water: I drink like a fish daily, 1 1/2 - 2 gallons
daily.
Right now still eating at a slight calorie deficiet till
I reach 5-6% bodyfat. I know if I do this stack I would
be bumping up the calories over 3K to add the mass during
cycle.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Body and Body Fat Measurements:
These are done every Sunday as soon as the wife and I
wake up we do our weekly body and body fat measurements
and track. This way we can see when we need to rise or
lower calories based on weekly progress.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
My Ideal Goal for Stack:
So I've been doing a lot of research. This site honestly
rocks. It took many hours of reading to catch up and
educate myself on how to start my first cycle.
I've been training natural my entire life. My goal is NOT
to pack on heaps of LMM but add some respectable size that
I hope I can maintain after my gains.
As you seen above I am currently 174 lbs at the time of this
entry and 8.74% body fat. I am getting close to my goal of
5-6% I've been aiming for.
I would honestly love to be around 185 lbs and 5-6% body fat
and maintain that. So as said not looking to turn into a
freak (yet... who knows this stuff could be like getting
your first tattoo... then you want another and so on).
--------------------------------------------------------------------
My Stack Based on Research here:
So this may be a bit overkill to my goals listed above but
I will let you veterinarians help guide me if I have steered
in wrong direction.
I've always been one to research anything before trying things
out. So hopefully what I have come up with is smart for first
cycle.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Super-Dmz Mass Stack w/ Formeron:
Super-DMZ Rx - 1 bottle
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 1 bottle
Ultra Male Rx - 1 bottle
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 1 bottle
E-Control Rx - 1 bottle
Black Lion Research Formeron- 1 120mL bottle (or two if need it)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
FIRST 4 WEEKS:
Super-DMZ Rx Rx - 2 caps daily (1 cap AM / 1 cap PM)
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily
Black Lion Research Formeron - 1 pump daily (1-2ml) apply after a shower for best results
Creatine 5g x 2 daily
Glutamine 5g x 3 and 10g x 1 daily
Leucine 5g x 2 daily
Arginine 5g x 2 daily
Multi-Vitamin 1x Daily
Vitamin C 2-3g Daily
Calcium 2-3g Daily
Potassium - Unsure daily required amount 1 tsp (3.48g) 3-4 x daily? Required first four weeks?
Taurine - AllMax 3g x 3 daily? Breakfast / 30 Min prior to workouts / Dinner
--------------------------------------------------------------------
LAST 4 WEEKS:
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily
E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily (last 3 weeks)
Clomid 100mg ED first week, 75mg/50/50
Black Lion Research Formeron - 1-2 (1-2ml) pumps per day transdermally apply after a shower for best results
Creatine 5g x 2 daily
Glutamine 5g x 3 and 10g x 1 daily
Leucine 5g x 2 daily
Arginine 5g x 2 daily
Multi-Vitamin 1x daily
Vitamin C 2-3g Daily
Calcium 2-3g Daily
Potassium - Unsure daily required amount 1 tsp (3.48g) 3-4 x daily?
Taurine - AllMax 3g daily? 30 Min prior to workouts
Allmax Pro-Competition Series Liver D-Tox (21 Day Supply) contain 380 mg Milk Thistle as well
Also read Liv52 is good for liver support
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Your Insights on Stack:
So after my hours of researching and reading this is the stack
I have come up with. Please review and advise what you guys
think. Again this will be my first time trying this and not
looking to sick gains of 25-30 lbs of lean muscle mass but from
what I have read about other using similar stack it has that
ability to do so.
My main goal at the end of stack and long after PCT would be
maintain an ideal weight around 185 lbs and 5-6% with great
definition and strength.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Questions:
1) I am NOT a fan of using needles and you will see I have not
added any Test or HCG to the above. If I choose to not use
one, is there an alternative to these and using needles or
two, okay to not incorporate at all with lil sides effects to
this stack?
2) How does my PCT look? I am okay with honesty guys. I am
noob here and want to make the right decisions and purchase
everything when I KNOW I am moving in the right direction.
3) Another question in mind with doing a cycle like this. How
long after would it be safe to try to "conceive" if one wants
to have a baby down the road still? Or better yet can you
still have one after doing this stuff?
4) The way this stack is laid out will this help with suppression?
How long does suppression last will doing cycle like this?
5) What else might I be missing from this stack? I think I've
covered everything off but that is why I've taken the time to
write this long post to make sure I do this RIGHT first time
around unlike people that rush in and make mistakes.
6) Ance: Will taking 6-9g of Taurine help prevent acne or backne?
Should I also add in any other supps to assist with acne prevention?
7) AI Support: I've read great things about using Black Lion
Research Formeron. I know it great for helping to tighten or
taper everything down and even helps with gyno bit. Should I
stock anything else in case of gyno or like Nova? It seems from
what I've read that this is much safer and better results. You
guys would know this best?
8) Would be be my ideal LBM I should shoot for if I would like
to maintain around 185 and 5-6% BF. I don`t know how much
I can maintain after since I have never done this before.
I do train hard and lots of intensity. Always use strick form
(no swinging weights, slow and controlled movements).
Again sorry if too long a post but I wanna do this right when I am
ready to start. Thank you for taking the time to read and add your
input. It is much appreciated.
JohnyB