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    Bad news guys.... Just a warning for all you Halo, Winny and DMZ lovers






    Well guys today i would be at two weeks out from my first show... Last week i decided to bump my winny up to 100mg eod(BD) and add Halo 15mg pre cardio and pre workout..... Bad idea. come wednesday and thursday my back started tightning up bad and my side started hurting. So i told myself im going to get my liver and cholestrol checked just to be safe before i start drying out, its been 12 weeks since last bloods.

    Currently Running:
    1cc tren ED
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    100mg winny ED
    30 mg Halo ED
    50 mcg t3 ED
    1.25mg letro ED
    ECA 2x ED

    Started diet running TEST,EQ,DMZ. Then Switched to PROP,TREN,MAST. Added winny in 6 weeks out and Halo 3 weeks out.

    Here are my results:

    Liver enzymes: AST: 96, ALT: 149
    Lipid Panel: Total Cholesterol 192, Triglycerides: 71, HDL:17, VLDL Cholesterol Cal:14, LDL: 161
    Blood pressure: 140 over 83

    Due to my extremely high liver enzymes i am gonna bow out of my first show as my health means to much to me and Im getting married in 3 weeks Just thought I would shed some light to you guys that blood work is important! Get it done! Halo is hardcore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! im gonna Detox for about 8 weeks and get more bloods done at 4 and 8 weeks. Just cruise on 200mg of cyp EW.

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    16 weeks out

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    4 weeks out before halo and winny increase

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    bro it is the winny. i got the same when i ran 100mg of it.

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    Bro no fucking way, drop some orals if you have to but don't forfeit the show!!

    You've come too far and you're too damn close, You obviously put alot of work in on this prep and it would suckkkk to quit now. Drop the halo, lower the winny, stay on the tren/mast etc. and finish it out. Even if you don't place as well as you'd like it'd be dumb to stop dieting with just two weeks left IMO!

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    you are looking good bro. Imo, I'd drop the orals, keep dieting hard, and try doing the show. But you need to really evaluate how you feel and make the smart decision. If you feel it's best to skip the show, then do it. Its not a race but a marathon.

    What are you taking for liver support?

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    Yeah you look outstanding.. I wouldn't give up..you come too far..

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    Brother my side is killing me. And I'm getting married in three weeks. I love this sport and want to do it for years not just now. And taking diuretics and killing my body the last few weeks for a trophy is not worth my health... I'm sticking strictly to 4 week oral runs and moderate doses with way better diet now. I'm trying to be a father one day and am a soldier and it's my job to take care of my health so I can take care of my family and country before personal needs... I guess it's just who I am. When I got back in this game I told myself I would never risk my health

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    ^^^^ Edit: Never mind. Sounds like your mind's made up. Kudos on a great prep regardless of whether you compete or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalash View Post
    Bro no fucking way, drop some orals if you have to but don't forfeit the show!!

    (snip) Even if you don't place as well as you'd like it'd be dumb to stop dieting with just two weeks left IMO!
    Agreed.

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    Liver support is from man power. Basically 500mg milk thistle 3x day, cranberry extract, and green superfood 2-3x a day

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    Of course if you really feel you need to quit the show then only you know what's best for you. BUT I say drop all orals, up your tren/mast if you have to and get on that damn stage! I imagine prep was hell and you're almost there bro


    edit: I'm sorry I didn't realize you were already running 700mg tren and mast, prolly alright where it's at lol.

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    looking solid brother dont do it, get on that stage bro ,you are so close!

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    It sounds like you've made up your mind and I can totally respect your decision. At least you've come out of this with some knowledge for next time. I think you'd have done well bro and you'll do even better next time. And now you know you have it in you. Congrats on your marriage also bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinyshrek View Post
    Liver support is from man power. Basically 500mg milk thistle 3x day, cranberry extract, and green superfood 2-3x a day
    Im not really trusting mp right now.

    I'd get some advanced cycle support from IML asap and Liv52 as well. take 2-3 doses of the acs per day.

    IML ACS:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant View Post
    Im not really trusting mp right now.

    I'd get some advanced cycle support from IML asap and Liv52 as well. take 2-3 doses of the acs per day.

    IML ACS: (snip)
    Nice. Here's the link!

    IronMagLabs Bodybuilding Supplements & Prohormones: Advanced Cycle Support

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    Next on the agenda, please go eat a large pizza, some wings and some good microbrew beer. You know you want to

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    As others said bro its the orals killing your liver and hdl and such.

    tren is also harsh on the hdl and such but if you drop your orals you'll be fine..

    also you been tannning? how you get so tan?




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    liver values are high but what did you expect they would look like during cycle ?
    "Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalash View Post
    Next on the agenda, please go eat a large pizza, some wings and some good microbrew beer. You know you want to
    alcohol is a very bad idea right now for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinyshrek View Post
    Brother my side is killing me. And I'm getting married in three weeks. I love this sport and want to do it for years not just now. And taking diuretics and killing my body the last few weeks for a trophy is not worth my health... I'm sticking strictly to 4 week oral runs and moderate doses with way better diet now. I'm trying to be a father one day and am a soldier and it's my job to take care of my health so I can take care of my family and country before personal needs... I guess it's just who I am. When I got back in this game I told myself I would never risk my health
    I appreciate your dedication to your family and to your country before your personal needs. I live in the US and soldiers like you is why I feel safe and my family feels safe.. Thank you so much for your service and the protection you provide for all of us so take care of yourself and your health. By the way you're looking jacked and it's a shame you can't finish your prep.

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    Thank you guys so much!! Been a rough day. Been sober from alcohol since jan 2, 2010. As I'm military it's what we do drink! and bodybuilding has helped me stay away. I will get iml liver support. Thanks vibrant!! You all have truly amazing and I will put more size on and come back healthier and stronger next year

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    Yes I tan every day the last 4 weeks

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    i agree to stick it out your liver will go down drop the orals and keep taking the liver supports i seen way worse liver values then that but not minimizing your's just you've done so muck work and to just stop is not the rout i'd take and your not a quitter at all bro ur in the army

    I know your getting married just try your hardest to go on stage and if you can't do it then that is fine but at least you tried don't throw in the towel just yet IMHO you should diet hard and still try bro

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    Not a quitter by any means but I know when my system is fucked. I went from pissing 20 times a day to 5 and clear pee to brownish, appetite gone and started retaining water... All bad signs. I'm very aware of my body and how far I can push. I'm just not andres munzer hardcore

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    Damn that sucks bro! You where lookin on point!

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    sucks to hear bro, but there will be future competitions. Sounds like you have your priorities straight




    that's weird though, my liver numbers were worse than that.. by a lot, and i had no abdominal pain.. hmmm kinda scary haha

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    Docs will usually pull the plug on oral use on guys that are 3-5 times upper limit for ALT/AST. Your values are normal for the orals you are on. Just drop the orals, continue hydration and add liv 52.




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    Yea use liv52 and good liver supports,not just milk thistle and cranberry extract,the diuretics aren't good for the liver because stress too.. Drop the oral, and use inj winy, on the week of the show use double dose and on the show day double dose too.. Drink more water and now eat big and after few days you will be ok.

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    Guys not that easy in my job there is only so much I can risk. If something bad was to happen its my career. Just not worth it to me or my health. I love training and dieting. Comp is just an ends to the means...

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