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    Mother of 19-year-old killed by Border Patrol sues






    Mother of 19-year-old killed by Border Patrol sues

    By AMANDA LEE MYERS | Associated Press – 14 hrs ago







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    PHOENIX (AP) — The mother of a 19-year-old man fatally shot in the back by a U.S. Border Patrol agent has sued the federal government and the agent himself, claiming it was "an appalling use of excessive force" because her son was unarmed, had his back to the agent and posed no threat.
    Guadalupe Guerrero said Monday that the Border Patrol had no right to take her son's life, even if he had marijuana in his truck as they say — though she disputed the allegation.
    A Border Patrol agent identified by police as Lucas Tidwell shot Carlos La Madrid three times — twice in the back and once in the thigh — as he climbed a ladder on the U.S.-Mexico border fence in southeastern Arizona on March 21, 2011.
    The Arizona man, who did not have a weapon, fell to the ground and died about five hours later at a hospital.
    "Why did they kill him? Who are they to play God?" Guerrero said in Spanish on what would have been her son's 21st birthday.
    The family was spending the day at the cemetery where he is buried in Douglas. He was born there nearly 10 years after his mother came to the U.S. from Agua Prieta in the northeastern Mexican state of Sonora.
    "I say he didn't have drugs, but let's suppose he did," Guerrero said. "Let's suppose he had 40 pounds of marijuana. You think that's dangerous enough to kill a young boy, an American citizen? Why not send him to jail?"
    Border Patrol spokesman Mario Escalante declined to talk about the case, citing the pending litigation. A message left for Tidwell in Las Cruces, N.M., was not immediately returned Monday.
    [Related: 11 dead in attack on Mexico rehab center]
    It's unclear whether Tidwell still is a Border Patrol agent.
    Although the amount of money that Guerrero is seeking was not listed in two lawsuits against the government and the agent, both filed last month, Guerrero said she wants to use the money to start a nonprofit to help poor children.
    "That's the only thing the United States government cares about — money," she said.
    She said that La Madrid's two younger siblings, his grandmother and the rest of the family have been devastated by his death. She said he was studying agriculture in college in hopes of having his own farm.
    A police report obtained by the AP in November from the Cochise County Sheriff's Office shows that Douglas police officers were responding to a tip about a car loading drugs when they tried to stop La Madrid and another teen, 17-year-old Jesus Manuel Chino Lino.
    La Madrid, who was driving, set off a chase by police and the Border Patrol that ended with a collision between Tidwell's and La Madrid's vehicle.
    La Madrid and Chino Lino ran from the vehicle, and La Madrid began climbing a ladder propped on the border wall. Simultaneously, a man who was sitting on the border wall began throwing rocks at Tidwell's vehicle, hitting the windshield twice, the report said.
    That's when Tidwell shot La Madrid, whose back was turned and who hadn't thrown any rocks, according to the report.
    At least one bullet was fired from inside the vehicle, police said.
    [Related: Border Patrol agents help boy hit by car]
    Chino Lino later told investigators that he crossed the border earlier with a friend who was packing marijuana and helped load it into the car that La Madrid was driving. He said he didn't know La Madrid.
    Police reported finding a burlap sack of marijuana weighing 48 pounds in La Madrid's car.
    The sheriff's report did not include an interview with Tidwell, which sheriff's spokeswoman Carol Capas said was because he refused to talk with investigators.
    The report also said that the Border Patrol did not cooperate with sheriff's investigators, telling one officer that "she could not speak to anyone, or do anything, without the FBI."
    The sheriff's office was in charge of investigating the shooting, while the FBI was investigating the rock-throwing.
    The sheriff's office turned the case over to the Cochise County Attorney's Office, which then turned it over to the U.S. Attorney's Office to consider whether to file charges against Tidwell. U.S. Attorney's spokesman William Solomon did not immediately respond to a request about the status of the case.
    Rick Gonzales, a Tucson attorney representing Guerrero in the lawsuits, said that the agent was "grossly negligent in shooting this kid."
    "It's a hugely, hugely tragic case," he said. "You don't shoot a 19-year-old kid in the back three times who's running from you in a marijuana case."
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    This never would have happened had he not been smuggling dope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagbender View Post
    19-year-old [Mexican] man fatally shot in the back by a U.S. Border Patrol agent

    One down, many to go.


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    Whacha doing climbing the fence BOY?
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    A mothers love is blind. If she would campaign against drug use or maybe to legalize marajuana that would be a noble cause. But some people just cant wrap their heads around what involving yourself if criminal activity can lead to. What if another drug dealer pulled the trigger, who you gonna sue then.

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    this is why the US needs to put up sentry guns... you can't sue a sentry gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    this is why the US needs to put up sentry guns... you can't sue a sentry gun
    Or a Claymore.

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    if barack obama had a son, he would look like Carlos La Madrid



    wait for it..

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    He was a citizen why did he have to climb over the fence?


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    He got what he deserved fuckin reo grande' surfers

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    A guy that works for me was a border patrol agent. If not for his wife living in Michigan he'd still be down in Texas rounding up dirtbags and occasionally shooting at them.
    If gunners were as violent as anti-gunners believe, logically there wouldn't be any anti-gunners left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    A guy that works for me was a border patrol agent. If not for his wife living in Michigan he'd still be down in Texas rounding up dirtbags and occasionally shooting at them.
    A buddy of mine became a BP agent out of college and he said they call the illegals 'tonks' because that's the sound they make when you crack 'em with a Maglite. He said they would chase them down with their trucks and knock them down by opening the door on them.

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    Anyone who tries to hop a fence should be shot, especially the Mexico/US border. That mexican lady can cry all she wants, but with all the shit going down in Mexico americans just dont give a fuck about them anymore. The only person who cares is our ass munching liberal president and his finger fucking puppets

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    Shit is crazy down in Mexico and along the border.

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    Obama will give her money, he hates America too. Meanwhile they stonewall on whether it was Holder or Obama Bin Biden that sold guns to the Mexican cartels that have been used in 1100 crimes including killing a border agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~RaZr~ View Post
    Shit is crazy down in Mexico and along the border.
    Juarez, Mexico is murder capitol of the world. That's right, there's more killing there than in South America, the Middle East, Sub-Saharan Africa.


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    Sounds like the guy throwing rocks should be sued or shot. I could see being in a car and after a suspected drug smuggler suddenly your windshield splinters and you think he's shooting at you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFHammer View Post
    Obama will give her money, he hates America too. Meanwhile they stonewall on whether it was Holder or Obama Bin Biden that sold guns to the Mexican cartels that have been used in 1100 crimes including killing a border agent.
    yes because history surely shows that the GOP is against the war on drugs which is why the CIA got caught selling cocaine in the 80's under Reagan to various parties. and why there are countless books detailing the involvement of the Bush family in the selling of cocaine and for some reason none of the authors ever get sued for printing this.
    William F. Buckley describes a conservative as, "someone who stands athwart history, yelling Stop." - and then proceeds to drag civilization back to times best left in history's dungheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    One down, many to go.

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