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    good cruise dose?

    My dr had me run 200mgs cyp eow and after 8the weeks he upped me to 300 eow. I figured F'em and am running 175mgs every friday. Keeps me within script and cuts the drop in day 10. If i self cruise what is safe without AI? 200,250 per week?

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    I use 250 but also some adex/formeron

    200 EW is probably about as high as I'd go without at least .25mg adex 3x a week. If you divide dose further to 2x a week you can probably get away with even more, use insulin pins and its very easy. I believe test E's half life is 7-10 days so by one week after injection your levels have dropped to about half.

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    When I cruised on Sus 250 every week, my bloods were at the highest end of normal ( free test).
    When I switched to Test E 250 weekly, my bloods were nearly double the norm.

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    Only bw will tell you for sure if you need an ai at a certain dose. Many people don't show sides but can have e2 sky high.

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    I would just get E2 labs.

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    I did bloods a few weeks ago and he asked how i feel, i said well i notice going down a little before the 14th day, he said your bloods are fine it came back 286 about 10-11 days after last shot. Wouldnt he have checked my e2? Also i asked before i started about AI amd he was nah no need just Test.

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    I think we put to much faith in doctors [esp GP's]....... I cruise at 250 test e every 5 days....also burst..600 mgs..800 mgs..1000 mgs..then back again...

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    MY trt dose was 200mg test c a week and E2 was 74 , So stilled needed to run an A.I. . Its all a guessing game with out blood work. Get ur blood work then you'll know for sure ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zane View Post
    My dr had me run 200mgs cyp eow and after 8the weeks he upped me to 300 eow. I figured F'em and am running 175mgs every friday. Keeps me within script and cuts the drop in day 10. If i self cruise what is safe without AI? 200,250 per week?
    75mg ever mon/thurs...easy to remember and will keep your blood levels more stable....use adex at .5mg e3d...get bw to check your e2...you may need it eod..but only bw.will show that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamma View Post
    MY trt dose was 200mg test c a week and E2 was 74 , So stilled needed to run an A.I. . Its all a guessing game with out blood work. Get ur blood work then you'll know for sure ..
    I just had my 1/2 yr bw...im on 200mg ew and .5mg adex eod...my e2 was 11...so back to e3d...lil too low..

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    When I got my 74 e2 reading I wasn't taking any A.I. at all because I wanted to see where I would be at fours weeks in.
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    I am deff asking for e2 to be checked. I have 4the weeks to go before bloods. Keep ya posted. Thanks!

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    So this morning i went in for b/w and asked the nurse what is he testing, she says just testosterone. I asked for liver, and e2 be added. Then later the dr. Calls and says he is confused on why i would want that? I explained i wanted know and make sure it isnt to high. He says your bigger guy bmi and it is going to be higher. Why wouldn't this be checked along with test all the time? Why wouldnt he want to know and help lower it? I will post results next week when they return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zane View Post
    So this morning i went in for b/w and asked the nurse what is he testing, she says just testosterone. I asked for liver, and e2 be added. Then later the dr. Calls and says he is confused on why i would want that? I explained i wanted know and make sure it isnt to high. He says your bigger guy bmi and it is going to be higher. Why wouldn't this be checked along with test all the time? Why wouldnt he want to know and help lower it? I will post results next week when they return.
    sorry man, u might want to go seek another doc, or just buy some labs from that well known place online, and get the femal panel done for like $50 and see what those levels are yourself, and while we r on the subject there are 2 well known estrogen codes that need to be checked:'


    Labcorp Sensitive - test number: 140244 range: 3 - 70
    Labcorp Estradiol - test number: 004515 range: 7.6 - 42

    the one most really need to check is the 004515 because believe it or not it is sometimes thru the roof compared to the 140244 coded estrogen sesitive test.

    just a bit more info for anyone who does not know or cares to check a couple different ones

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