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    first cycle advice

    Hey guys i'm new here and am thinking about running my first cycle this winter.
    Start out with my stats
    22 yrs old
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    195 @ 15-18% bf-- dieting down to 10ish% this summer before i take the first shot
    training consistently for 3 years

    anyways the plan is
    500 mg test cyp weekly- 10 weeks
    300 mg equipoise weekly- 10 weeks
    dbol kickstart 25-50 mg daily - 4weeks
    .5 adex eod weeks 4-16
    Nolva PCT starting 2 weeks after last shot 40/40/20/20 maybe throw in an otc test booster
    not sure if i need it or not but if its recommended I will pick up some hcg as well

    really my big question here is if im off my rocker wanting to run 3 compounds for my first run and if the mg and duration of use on the EQ is gonna be straight. If I need to I can extent the test to 12 weeks of injections and up the EQ to 12 weeks and @ a higher mg if needed.
    Dont think I want to go past 12 weeks of shots though. Just think the shutdown would be too hard/ just too much for the first time.
    I do have a good bit of experience with PHs and Im thinking I can handle 3 compounds but I want some input BC i am on the fence and would appreciate any input or thoughts that you guys have.

    Dont hesitate to call me out on this if you think i'm an idiot.

    Thanks,
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    It's your body pump it full of as many compounds as you want. Or you could do some research.

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    dirtbiker specifically what do you think i should research? i have done ALOT of reading over the past months but It has all been broscience and just the stuff Ive been able to stumble across. I know generally it is recommended to run test solo the first time, and like I said I'm on the fence here and want input.

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    You won't need a kicker, levels will be higher than you've ever exerienced before you know it, and why even consider the extra eq? 500 test is plenty for a great great first cycle, and you will know how test affects you from then on. Trust me, that kind of knowledge is worth a lot in the future when you're planning other stuff out. Testosterone is really potent man, you'll love it.

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    Calves that's exactly the kinda advice I needed to hear. I've no real world experience with legit gear, and I've been thinking really hard on this. Guess I just got carried away.
    As far as the ancillaries go is the adex overkill or a good addition to test only, and should I bother with the hcg?

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    You do not need the hcg for test only but you can use it and I would have dex on hand incase you need it . Thats what your first cycle is all about you don't know how your going to react to the compounds or if your prone to gyno. Take things slow my bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadawg View Post
    Hey guys i'm new here and am thinking about running my first cycle this winter.
    Start out with my stats
    22 yrs old
    5'10
    195 @ 15-18% bf-- dieting down to 10ish% this summer before i take the first shot
    training consistently for 3 years

    anyways the plan is
    500 mg test cyp weekly- 10 weeks
    300 mg equipoise weekly- 10 weeks
    dbol kickstart 25-50 mg daily - 4weeks
    .5 adex eod weeks 4-16
    Nolva PCT starting 2 weeks after last shot 40/40/20/20 maybe throw in an otc test booster
    not sure if i need it or not but if its recommended I will pick up some hcg as well

    really my big question here is if im off my rocker wanting to run 3 compounds for my first run and if the mg and duration of use on the EQ is gonna be straight. If I need to I can extent the test to 12 weeks of injections and up the EQ to 12 weeks and @ a higher mg if needed.
    Dont think I want to go past 12 weeks of shots though. Just think the shutdown would be too hard/ just too much for the first time.
    I do have a good bit of experience with PHs and Im thinking I can handle 3 compounds but I want some input BC i am on the fence and would appreciate any input or thoughts that you guys have.

    Dont hesitate to call me out on this if you think i'm an idiot.

    Thanks,
    -J
    Bro if this is your first run you are going way over board and just asking for trouble and a life time of trt man.

    Next you are only 22yrs old and shouldn't even be thinking about gear, but 25-26yrs of age sounds better man. Have you gotten any blood work yet to see where your natural levels are?

    The above compounds except one is over kill for your first run man!!!

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    thanks guys. your input is greatly appreciated. I'll drop the EQ and dbol. As far as PCT goes i've only ever ran nolva for past ph cycles, should what i have mapped out still be sufficient? Do you guys like to add herbal sups or peptides or anything? clomid?

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    jadawg, your initial post with the terms "first cycle advice" using the search button could've brought up a ton of answers, but you chose to be lazy. Jesus what the hell is wrong with you youngsters today??? Fucking lazy!
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    ...that being said, yes I think you're being wasteful running all three compounds at once. Use an AI, 500mg of basic test enth and a well thought out PCT, and you'll get results. Plus, some pocket money.
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    Haha sorry jug. I did search "first cycle advise" for quite awhile, just somewhere there I got to thinking I was special and that 3 compounds were a good idea.

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    Well, not to be a douche, but advise isnt the term you want, "advice" is.
    Second, using a little is better than using too much IMO. You'll get different answers, but for me, it's always been diet and training got me where I am. Gears and supplements alike, are always last.

    You'll get great results from a basic 500mg test cycle with anastrozole as an AI, as long as your diet and training are on key. Plan your PCT with aromasin and nolvadex and you'll retain the gains.
    Also, dont be afraid to cut first before using. Getting down to a lower BF level is great for calorie partitioning. When you do use, try adding 25mcg of T3 to help with calorie partitioning also. Split it; 12.5 a half hour before the training, and 12.5 (30) minutes prior to ending the training. If you plan a cheat, another 12.5 will do you well.
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    chrisotpher what exactly is the reasoning for waiting until Im 25? Is it by and at large a epiphyseal plate thing, or is it a hormone shutdown thing? or something else that I maybe haven't even considered?
    btw thanks for taking the time to post guys!

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    Woah you're not 25 yet?? DONT USE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadawg View Post
    chrisotpher what exactly is the reasoning for waiting until Im 25? Is it by and at large a epiphyseal plate thing, or is it a hormone shutdown thing? or something else that I maybe haven't even considered?
    btw thanks for taking the time to post guys!
    What is his reasoning ? It's nothing personal the fact that you do not need anything and you are lazy and I don't mean by doing a search. I mean by training you can an will be making great gains if you train hard an eat right . But your fucking lazy and just want to start using. So go a head actually do the cycle you planned I nor anyone else gives a fuck. It is your body.

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