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hello, i've just had a blood test where my testosterone level came back as 14.7 i think the unit was nmol/l. i'm 27 years old, the doc said this was in the normal range (between 8-30 i think she said) for 27 thats not that high, what can i do to raise it?
 
anything other than this? not wanting to go down the gear route.
 
horny goats weed = all kinds a gains
 
dteller1 said:
anything other than this? not wanting to go down the gear route.
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your levels are normal, test levels can vary during the day so maybe another test will show higher...but since it is normal then no need for testing and for supplementing anything: Normal is Normal and this normal range varies due to different parameters in different individuals...your's is 14.7 , MORE IS NOT BETTER OR SUPERIOR.at your age you should not have tested or worried about it anyways.
There are natural diets that will raise test levels, you can look into that , but still no need to worry about it.
And not wanting the gear route is a smart decision.
 
gear is a waste of time dude its all about horny goats weed = ive made some gains by just saying the words "horny goats weed" out loud..
 
I'm going to assume that is your that is your free test reading, where are the rest of your results??
 
no that is total test (i'm in the uk its a different unit) converted its about 450.
 
Yeah it goes up and down. My blood was tested in the morning and mine is a little under 600. I'm 39 so I think it would be a little lower later in the day cause I think the morning is the highest.

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Ignore some of this bullshit above about getting on gear (which will destroy your natural testosterone) or horny goat weed, which is an aphrodisiac (biochemically, it does the same thing as viagra, making you think you have higher testosterone).

What are the other numbers given on your blood test? Particularly LH, FSH and estrogen/estradiol? Just something else to note - time of day (or even having a bad day or not enough sleep) can drastically affect your results, so a retest in different circumstances would be warranted if you're really worried.

Take a look at some of the food suggestions below. I hope you're eating plenty of these. Diet plays a large role in natural testosterone. Brassica vegetables (the ones everyone hates; e.g. broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, brussel sprouts, turnips) have been shown in studies to reduce the amount of testosterone converted to estrogen (giving you a natural testosterone boost).
Gynecomastia Diet-14 Veggies That Double Your Testosterone level ? Understanding Gynecomastia
The top 10 testosterone boosting foods! ~ Body By BB2K
Sauerkraut (good on the side with meats, hot dogs, or in a beef sandwich for lunch) and broccoli and cabbage are easy to work in the diet.
Reduce your intake of simple sugars and carbs. No more candy or sweets, switch to brown bread. A diet high in simple sugars and carbs isn't good for your testosterone levels. Saturated fat is good to an extent for your testosterone. Buy cuts of beef (not mince, they put all sorts of shit in that) with a little bit of fat on them (these cuts tend to be cheaper anyway!), and start eating thighs and drumsticks instead of breasts sometimes.

Of course, lifting weights also increases your testosterone. You should be in the gym 3x a week. Cut back on the :jerkit:, no more than 3x a week (sex is ok).

One thing I have noted from working in England occasionally (I travel to the UK and Western Europe a lot) is the lack of sunlight. Being outdoors with unfiltered sunlight hitting your skin = vitamin D production. Testosterone production is DIRECTLY linked to vitamin D (read all about it here: https://www.google.com/search?q=vit....,cf.osb&fp=a2e370afc0354df8&biw=1366&bih=653 ). Vitamin D deficiency affects a large part of the human population who live in Northern latitudes. Buy yourself a large pack of vitamin D3 vitamins (they're EXTREMELY cheap and I believe that creatine and Vitamin D are the only supplements WORTH buying. You can get several hundred D3 vitamins from tesco for under 10 quid) and take 1000iu per day.

I guarantee you will see a turnaround in 1 month following this advice. Message me in a month and let me know how well it worked out for you. Or ask away if you have any questions.
 
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thanks for the advice mate, i've just got some 5000iu vit d3 tabs i had a read around and found this study

Effect of vitamin D supplementation on testos... [Horm Metab Res. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI

that was with 3300 iu but 5000 will have me covered.

secondly i'm cycling daa now as well.

unfortunately that was the ONLY test figure i got, i went to the doc cos i don't get morning erections or very rarely and it was more of a query, but she only did total serum test, which she said was fine.

the test taken at approx 0930 hours, but i have a feeling i know why it was a little lower, i had it taken on a tuesday, i work shifts in my job and had just come off a set of nights (2200-0700 hours) i finished work at 0700 hours on the monday and slept through to approx 1400 hours on the monday to try and get my body clock back to normal for my days off thus only having about 5 and a half hours sleep, on the monday night i only got about 6 hours sleep so the fact that i hadn't had good sleep the past 2 nights and the fact my body clock was all messed up ( testosterone is highest in the morning but for me my morning was 1600 hours in the afternoon for the past 4 days) could be a factor?

and finally what do you think to using an ai as well such as grape seed extract?
Grape Seed Extract inhibits aromatase

or stinging nettle (although i have read about this effecting your erections so i'm less inclined to want to use that)

thanks

 
total test doesn't really matter it's the test that is free to circulate through your system and latch onto androgen receptors. What is your free test #?

btw there are many factors in test production. It can vary. Lack of sleep and lack of calories can cause a reduction in Testosterone level's. As long as your nuts are working right you are ok. Don't worry about all that other crap supps.
 
dteller1 said:
a lot of the articles suggest eating lots of cruciferous veggies (which i'm guilty of not doing) for the i3c would it worth also getting this?

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thanks
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I would say your money is better spent elsewhere. The bioavailability of lots of those great compounds (like flavonoids, anthocyanins, catechins, antioxidants, etc.) is very low outside of the vegetable or fruit. We don't know why it is that they work in a test tube or in the human body as part of a food, but not extracted and delivered orally. In simple terms, complex compounds don't get absorbed well in vitamin form. Not to mention that even if they were absorbed perfectly, they are only one or two compounds out of the hundreds we know (and don't know yet) are present in a broccoli or sprouts.


dteller1 said:
thanks for the advice mate, i've just got some 5000iu vit d3 tabs i had a read around and found this study

Effect of vitamin D supplementation on testos... [Horm Metab Res. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI

that was with 3300 iu but 5000 will have me covered.

secondly i'm cycling daa now as well.

unfortunately that was the ONLY test figure i got, i went to the doc cos i don't get morning erections or very rarely and it was more of a query, but she only did total serum test, which she said was fine.

the test taken at approx 0930 hours, but i have a feeling i know why it was a little lower, i had it taken on a tuesday, i work shifts in my job and had just come off a set of nights (2200-0700 hours) i finished work at 0700 hours on the monday and slept through to approx 1400 hours on the monday to try and get my body clock back to normal for my days off thus only having about 5 and a half hours sleep, on the monday night i only got about 6 hours sleep so the fact that i hadn't had good sleep the past 2 nights and the fact my body clock was all messed up ( testosterone is highest in the morning but for me my morning was 1600 hours in the afternoon for the past 4 days) could be a factor?

and finally what do you think to using an ai as well such as grape seed extract?
Grape Seed Extract inhibits aromatase

or stinging nettle (although i have read about this effecting your erections so i'm less inclined to want to use that)

thanks
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Irregular sleep patterns are a huge factor - that would definitely have caused some lower test results. Testosterone, and the endocrine system in general are highly linked to circadian rhythms.
I've heard things about the body acclimatizing in the long term to DAA and stinging nettle (in ways such as increasing aromatase production to compensate). I'd suggest trying the diet and sleep and vitamin D route (which are far and away the most likely actual causes) for a month and getting another retest before that. The DAA and stinging nettle are temporary fixes, and won't fix the root of your problem.

I have a feeling the test result was mainly due to your biological clock being "off", but if you really do have any problems with testosterone production, I would most likely guess it would be because of a vitamin D deficiency (lack of sunlight and 21st century life in England) or lack of balanced diet, not because you're missing a specific vegetable compound or have some sort of genetic issue.

Give the "big 3" I suggested a try. They are the root cause for most young peoples' issues. Message me in a month and let me know if you've got an improvement. If you're really worried, schedule another test two months from now and test again (when your sleep schedule is normalized, of course!)
 
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just forget about it , your test levels are normal, there are some food and other things you can do to improve your test levels as suggested above in some replies,.....but still i don't think you should even think about it.
 
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just forget about it , your test levels are normal, there are some food and other things you can do to improve your test levels as suggested above in some replies,.....but still i don't think you should even think about it.
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Yeah there are some food which will help you, and in addition use some herbs, like horny goat weed or yohimbe etc. They will help you to get better testosterone.
 
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but srs, testosterone.
 
to be honest all the people who have given helpful advice and you know who you are, i really appreciate it, i've stopped worrying about it and changes i've made have started to take effect morning wood is more frequent! i'm not sure why i was worrying to start to be fair i've built a fair bit of muscle whatever my test level is and have no other sides. but thanks for those who contributed in a positive way.
 
Formeron is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor but also a mild prohormone.
The PH activity will help you feel better while the AI activity elevates test and lowers estro.
Its a good combo.
Daa used like you stated is fine yes.
 
The "normal" range is considered to be in the range of 300-1000ng/dl (10.4 ? 34.7 nmol/L)

So - what exactly happens if you maintain a range above 1000ng/dl?

At what levels do any problems start to manifest themselves - 1200, 1500?
 
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