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    Bar Stool Economics!

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    Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100 and if they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

    The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
    The fifth would pay $1.
    The sixth would pay $3.
    The seventh would pay $7.
    The eighth would pay $12.
    The ninth would pay $18.
    The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.)

    So, that's what they decided to do.

    The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20." So drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

    The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free...but what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'. They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

    So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so:

    The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
    The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
    The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
    The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
    The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
    The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

    Each of the six was better off than before...and the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

    "I only got a dollar out of the $20,"declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man," but he got $10!"

    "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"

    "That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got
    only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

    "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

    The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

    The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

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    nuh uhh.. the poor are exploited in this country

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    The problem in this country is that the wealthy are not buying "beer" for anyone but themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyusa View Post
    Some get it, some dont.
    You don't get it. You let rhetoric get in the way of logic.
    If gunners were as violent as anti-gunners believe, logically there wouldn't be any anti-gunners left.

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    Here's how it really is:

    There is a big company CEO, a middle manager and a bus driver sitting at a table in a conference room. A secretary brings in a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO takes eleven of the cookies and put them in front of himself. Then he leans over to the middle manager and whispers "That bastard bus driver wants to steal your cookie!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Here's how it really is:

    There is a big company CEO, a middle manager and a bus driver sitting at a table in a conference room. A secretary brings in a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO takes eleven of the cookies and put them in front of himself. Then he leans over to the middle manager and whispers "That bastard bus driver wants to steal your cookie!"
    Maybe in some cases but contrary to popular belief not every big business CEO is a mega-million dollar per year crook either. Gary Kelly at SWA is good example of someone who gets along with and compensates 'labor' VERY well while taking a very modest compensation package himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyusa View Post
    Some get it, some dont.
    lol, ok sensei!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pimpin View Post
    Maybe in some cases but contrary to popular belief not every big business CEO is a mega-million dollar per year crook either. Gary Kelly at SWA is good example of someone who gets along with and compensates 'labor' VERY well while taking a very modest compensation package himself.
    Exception, not the rule. Google is another one.

    The problem isn't that terribly difficult to solve. 20% tax rate on all income, the standard deduction is fixed to what a person making minimum wage takes in annually on a 40hr work week. All loopholes and subsidies eliminated and all people taking welfare or food assistance are enrolled in the military. If we stop being the world police we could probably provide basic healthcare to everyone in the country. Here's why it won't work

    1)The GOP won't stop waging wars.
    2)The dems won't make people work for handouts.
    3)The subsidies won't stop
    4)20%- 17,600 deduction per year is essentially a tax hike on the people who pay to manipulate the system to their liking.
    5)Every person in the country, whether they are a teabagger or freeloading welfare recipient have their hand out in some way.
    If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Here's how it really is:

    There is a big company CEO, a middle manager and a bus driver sitting at a table in a conference room. A secretary brings in a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO takes eleven of the cookies and put them in front of himself. Then he leans over to the middle manager and whispers "That bastard bus driver wants to steal your cookie!"

    the CEO and middle manager spent lots of money and years of their lives getting very educated, working all throughout highschool and college and taking summer courses and interships to increase the chance of employment and promotion. the bus driver dropped out of highschool to do drugs and see if his garage band could make it.


    now your story is complete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    the CEO and middle manager spent lots of money and years of their lives getting very educated, working all throughout highschool and college and taking summer courses and interships to increase the chance of employment and promotion. the bus driver dropped out of highschool to do drugs and see if his garage band could make it.


    now your story is complete
    You seem really good at making asinine statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin. View Post
    You seem really good at making asinine statements.
    maybe i had it backwards? did the ceo and middle manager drop out of highschool and the bus driver work really hard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    the CEO and middle manager spent lots of money and years of their lives getting very educated, working all throughout highschool and college and taking summer courses and interships to increase the chance of employment and promotion. the bus driver dropped out of college to do drugs and see if his garage computer business could make it.


    now your story is complete
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    You don't get it. You let rhetoric get in the way of logic.

    please elaborate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    maybe i had it backwards? did the ceo and middle manager drop out of highschool and the bus driver work really hard?
    No the bus driver is a veteran who got addicted to heroin while at war, and the ceo inherited a company his non-college educated father started... that happens too you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    maybe i had it backwards? did the ceo and middle manager drop out of highschool and the bus driver work really hard?
    some get it, some don't. You can't fix stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyusa View Post
    some get it, some don't. You can't fix stupid.
    you are a wise man sir, especially after you pointed out so clearly that others are dumber than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gissurjon View Post
    No the bus driver is a veteran who got addicted to heroin while at war, and the ceo inherited a company his non-college educated father started... that happens too you know?
    lol it's the veteran's fault for getting addicted to heroin. Look, we can muddy the water all we want.. but the truth remains, some will make it big and some will have to accept an "average" standard of life by american standards.

    generally speaking, those who work hardest are the ones who are met with the most success, and those who dont feel like working are met with success that reflects their mediocre efforts.

    Then of course the people who are less better off bitch and moan and want the rich people to pay even more taxes than they already do, so they (the less better off) can get bigger checks from the government

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
    a lot of cowards went to college to avoid the draft while brave men fought.
    and out of left field.. it's LW.

    dont u have some paint thinner to huff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gissurjon View Post
    you are a wise man sir, especially after you pointed out so clearly that others are dumber than you.

    that shoe fits you perfect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    and out of left field.. it's LW.

    dont u have some paint thinner to huff?
    speaking of cowards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    and out of left field.. it's LW.

    dont u have some paint thinner to huff?
    142919909 to 142401183 i thought i could hit harder than that. anyone want to help beat this bitch?

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    Bam!!

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    oh noooo not my colored shapes!


    i hope no one is anticipating an apology. Fact of the matter is, LW is spewing complete bullshit and someone is finally calling her out on it.. looks like it's something she isnt used to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Here's how it really is:

    There is a big company CEO, a middle manager and a bus driver sitting at a table in a conference room. A secretary brings in a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO takes eleven of the cookies and put them in front of himself. Then he leans over to the middle manager and whispers "That bastard bus driver wants to steal your cookie!"

    I suggest going into business for your self, if this ^^^ is what holds you back.
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    You all know that middle class pays more tax than rich, right? They always talk about cutting tax for the rich. When are they going to talk about cutting tax for the middle class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyusa View Post
    some get it, some don't. You can't fix stupid.

    But curing obliviousness can also be extremely difficult.
    And I don't expect the light to come on where you'll get that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fit26 View Post
    You all know that middle class pays more tax than rich, right? They always talk about cutting tax for the rich. When are they going to talk about cutting tax for the middle class?

    just.. no....

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