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    CJC with or w/out DAC - Does it really fucking matter?

    I mean 4real! WTF should I pay an extra $10 for god damned DAC?

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    The DAC (drug affinity complex) causes it to last much longer in your system. Kind of like cjc 1295 w/o dac is test suspension and cjc 1295 w/dac is test cypionate. The result of DAC is more of a constant long term increase. Some feel that a constant increase in gh with pulses caused by using ghrp 2 or ghrp 6 alongside is the way to go. Others think that using 1295 w/o DAC and ghrp2 or ghrp6 - which results solely in pulses of gh is the way to go.
    It all depends on your preference.

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    Yes it does matter. You need to get the cjc 1295 without dac not the with dac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant View Post
    Yes it does matter. You need to get the cjc 1295 without dac not the with dac.
    Why is w/out DAC better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyinkedup View Post
    The DAC (drug affinity complex) causes it to last much longer in your system. Kind of like cjc 1295 w/o dac is test suspension and cjc 1295 w/dac is test cypionate. The result of DAC is more of a constant long term increase. Some feel that a constant increase in gh with pulses caused by using ghrp 2 or ghrp 6 alongside is the way to go. Others think that using 1295 w/o DAC and ghrp2 or ghrp6 - which results solely in pulses of gh is the way to go.
    It all depends on your preference.
    VERY well put. I love both. if you have a cost issue go for cheaper. some feel without dac is better, then some the other way around. BOTH will work and i have used both.
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    more and more researchers are beginning to research the product with DAC with great success.

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    If you want to risk the same side effects as running high dosed rHGH then take the one with the DAC complex. This will cause GH bleed and with it will come chronically elevated systemic IGF-1 levels, which are clinically correlated with increased cancer risk and decreased lifespan. So no it really doesnt matter if you care nothing about your health and everything about being ripped.

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    CJC with or w/out DAC - Does it really fucking matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by GearsMcGilf View Post
    Why is w/out DAC better?
    Vibrants given me some good advices bro.



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    I encourage you to do some research outside this forum where experimenters are a bit more ahead of the curve then those here.


    Pulsatile secretion of growth hormone ( - PubMed Mobile
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    CJC with or w/out DAC - Does it really fucking matter?

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    As I said I encourage EVERYONE to do additional research. He's not anymore apparently.



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    Quote Originally Posted by purchasepeptides View Post
    As I said I encourage EVERYONE to do additional research. He's not anymore apparently.
    Yep......blergs is the new peptide guru!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toothache View Post
    Yep......blergs is the new peptide guru!
    HAHAHA I guess you know me from the other forum too!

    Thanks for kind comments! :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by purchasepeptides View Post
    I encourage you to do some research outside this forum where experimenters are a bit more ahead of the curve then those here.


    Pulsatile secretion of growth hormone ( - PubMed Mobile
    "However, basal (trough) GH levels were markedly increased (7.5-fold"

    That was taken directly from this study. This is the exact thing I was talking about in my other post. Sure DAC will increase GH. But when you chronically elevate basal GH (which was seenb in this study) you cause a continous GH bleed. This lends itself to increased systemic IGF-1 levels which, suprise suprise, were also reported in this study. Increased systemic IGF-1 levels sound exciting to the bodybuilder but it really should not be. Research it and you will find a whole host of negatives associated with chronically elavated IGF-1 levels, yes, including increased cancer risk and decreased life expectancy.

    Furthermore, it is worth noting that systemic IGF-1 is really not that improtant to muscle growth. But what is important is LOCAL IGF-1. Unfortunately it is virtually impossible to measure this directly.

    When you keep your GH pulsatile with NO INCREASE IN BASAL GH SECRETION you increase local IGF-1 and a host of other factors and get a nice boost in lipolysis without the side effect of suffering from an increased igf-1 profile. Essentially, all of the goods, none of the bads. DAC apparently may create pulsation, but it does so at the cost of also allowing an increased basal level of the hormone. This is a bad thing.

    If I won a 20 year supply of CJC-1295 w DAC I'd throw the entire supply into the garbage.

    Mod GRF-1 will keep your profile pulsatile only. Unfortunately the CJC analog "CJC-1295" wihout DAC that is sold by most suppliers does not have the lysine side chain removed which attached the DAC to the rest of the complex. But thats another issue with a separate set of circumstances entirely

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