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    Hey fellas, what do you think of a cycle approach such as this:
    Mon: Sustanon250, Deca, HCG
    Wed: Sustanon250
    Friday: Sustanon250, Deca, HCG

    ED: Dbol
    EOD: AI

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    looks ok, when are you running dbol? What are your doses?

    sust should be EOD really but 3x a week is probably fine

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    That's the most vague description of a cycle I've ever seen. Post some stats bro and it'll help considerably. Age weight height experience

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    tell guys dosages you will take a week,day..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerouskth View Post
    Hey fellas, what do you think of a cycle approach such as this:
    Mon: Sustanon250, Deca, HCG
    Wed: Sustanon250
    Friday: Sustanon250, Deca, HCG

    ED: Dbol
    EOD: AI

    Hmm whats your mg dosage of each compound??

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    How does my cycle approach look?

    How long are you running each compound? Dosage?


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    Re: How does my cycle approach look?

    Let's play guess the dosage and stats boys.
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    Knew it was coming.
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    was asking for opinions about the cycle approach in terms on injection schedules etc.
    but here it goes:
    Week 1-12 Sustanon250 @ 525mg/3/week
    Week 1-10 Deca @ 250mg/2/week
    Week 1-4 Dbol @ 30mg/day
    AI: Arimidex 0.5mg EOD
    Caber: On hand
    HCG: 500ius twice weekly

    PCT
    Clomid: 100/100/50/50
    Aromasin: 25/25/12.5/12.5

    22yo, 80kgs, 9-10%bf, 5-6 food meals+1 pwo shake a day. Currently at 350c, 320p, 75f plus minus 10% cbf at the moment. Less carbs/calories on rest days atm.
    Training 4 years plus.
    Doesnt drink, doesnt do shit, full on BB, barely missed my caloric goals, trains 5 times a week atm.
    DId first cycle of 500mg Test E 7-8 months back. Had good gains gained 7kgs, bodyfat remained the same. In terms of percentage it went down to 8%ish.

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    Was asking for opinions about the cycle approach in terms of injection schedules etc.
    but yeah here it goes:

    Week 1-12 Sustanon250 @ 525mg/3/week. Pins on Monday Wednesday Friday
    Week 1-10 Deca @ 250mg/2/week. Pins on Monday Friday
    Week 1-4 Dbol @ 30mg/day. Swallows ED Preworkout. Rest days splitting em up
    AI: Arimidex 0.5mg EOD
    Caber: On hand
    HCG Week 1-14 (Until ester clears): 500ius twice weekly. SQ Pin Monday Friday

    PCT
    Clomid: 100/100/50/50
    Aromasin: 25/25/12.5/12.5

    Pretty much have the doses set. What you guys think of this pinning schedule (Mon Wed Fri)? People seem to run sustanon blends differently (EOD, E3D, twice per week, Mon Wed Fri) but I like this approach best.

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    Re: How does my cycle approach look?

    Mon, wed, Fri looks good IMO

    As long as your getting good quality gear dosage looks good too.

    I prefer toremifene or Nolva for PCT myself

    Why the aromasin for PCT?

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    How does my cycle approach look?

    Supposedly aromasin helps jump start the HPTA

    There's a lot of debate on this if its good to do or not.

    Some say do it, some say u don't wanna mess with the HPTAs natural recovery
    Current stats-
    5'6 160 pounds
    10-11% body fat
    PCT is for quitters.

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    Aromasin raises t levels and is suicidal

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    Re: How does my cycle approach look?

    But wouldn't that possibly create a rebound effect?

    I guess the only way to really know is to run it and run some blood work

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    No. Aromasin has no rebound effect

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    I did not write this but it's a good read
    This post is kind of long, but take the time to read it, it's probably the most important thing you'll ever read if you're a BB'er (haha well maybe not, but there's some gold in here)


    Exemestane, sold under the name Aromasin? by Pfizer, is an orally available suicidal aromatase inhibitor. <This sentence describes exactly why exemestane is the king of Anti-E's for bodybuilding purposes.


    Because exemestane is steroidal this gives it a favorable estrogen suppression profile and confers a few really awesome benefits over other anti-estrogens both on paper and in real experience. Steroidal anti-estrogens have the benefit of being lipid-friendly and they all lower SHBG which increases the ratio of free to bound testosterone, which as many experienced BB'ers know can have a relatively profound positive impact on gains.


    I think it is important to understand how drugs work in order to properly dose them, exemestane is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor, this means that it binds with aromatase enzymes and as it does so permanently disables the enzyme and destroys it. Hence the "suicidal" this chemical is like a kamikaze pilot out to destroy your aromatase enzymes which is what makes it so special.


    Exemestane's half life in the male body is actually very short (~9 hours) and it is quickly eliminated, however, since as soon as it enters your bloodstream it quickly destroys 80-90% of the aromatase enzymes present in your body, it is effective in maintaining significant reductions in estrogen for up to 72 hours after a single 25mg dose. Estrogen levels only begin to rise again after your body has begun to make new aromatase enzymes to replace the ones destro by exemestane.


    There is a great study on the pharmacokinetics of exemestane in men which found the following:
    -24 hours after one 25mg dose estrogen levels are reduced by 70-80%
    -72 hours later estrogen levels are still 40% below baseline even though the drug itself is almost completely eliminated
    -120 hours after initial dose estrogen levels return to baseline (without rebounding)


    this means that you can find the timing and dosage that works for you, i've seen some guys recommend between 25mg ED and 12.5mg e4d, and you can see why both are effective while providing different levels of estrogen suppression, and it is this flexibility that makes exemestane such a versatile Anti-E.


    BUT WAIT, there's more. Aromasin is also a badass PCT drug! In males exemestane was found to increase total testosterone by ~60% after 10 days @ 25mg/day, however the same study found that while it increased total testosterone by 60% free testosterone was increased by over 100 percent! that's right, it DOUBLES bio-available testosterone (natty of course).


    I can tell you this much, when I take aromasin for PCT the results are dramatic, honestly my Libido is never absent at any point during PCT and I absolutely feel great within a matter of days, and this is taking 12.5mg ED, the only side effect i notice is stiff joints and other stiff areas


    the good:
    -powerful aromatase inhibitor capable of stopping gynecomastia completely on its own (for aromatizing compounds)
    -has powerful bloat-reduction effects
    -lowers SHBG, increasing free test & makes all other anabolic steroids more bio-available (read: more gains)
    -can actually boost Libido on and off cycle
    -increases IGF-1
    -NO adverse changes in lipid profiles for men (granted if you are using it on cycle this may be different)
    -is NOT liver toxic
    -no estrogen rebound


    the bad:
    -typical aromatase inhibitor issues here include stiff joints and possibly lethargy
    -more difficult to come by than a-dex or letro


    Appropriate uses for Exemestane:


    #1) on cycle estrogen control - that's right, any and all estrogen related problems can and should be corrected with this compound, from gynecomastia to acne to bloat exemestane is a panacea, run it at 12.5mg e4d for gynecomastia protection and bloat control, or run it at 25mg ED for pre-contest or for gynecomastia sensitive individuals or moon face. the beauty of aromasin is it's okay to use preventatively and not just as spot treatment for gynecomastia as it doesn't hurt gains nearly to the degree that other Anti-E's do, i'd still recommend using Anti-E's only if you need them, but if you must use one throughout your cycle, you couldn't pick a better compound to use.


    #2) PCT. Aromasin is the premier PCT drug in my experience... honestly PCT is kind of fun with aromasin (maybe that's a stretch) but it's a breeze compared to clomid/nolva and significantly better than a-dex (more powerful and fewer sides) it works excellently with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and keeps the extra aromatization from the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - injects at bay (you can even run higher dosages of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - above 500iu/inject) and another bonus is since it's safe and comfortable to run for longer periods of time, you can stretch your PCT out to 6 or 8 weeks for suppressive cycles to make sure you get everything back in full working order


    #3) gynecomastia reversal - in conjunction with a selective estrogen receptor modulator (raloxifene or tamoxifen) and/or a dihydrotestosterone derived compound aromasin can be effective in reversing/reducing existing gynecomastia


    #4) off cycle testosterone boost - sometimes if i dont feel like running a cycle but still want a little extra kick i'll take 25mg EOD for 4-6 weeks, gains aren't improved all that greatly but significantly, but i do it more for the Libido/mental effects anyways.

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    Thanks for the post, Long, I must say I've had a lot of success with a-dex and recently very low dose letro tapering at the end, but after reading your post I'm very interested in tryng aromasin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerouskth View Post
    was asking for opinions about the cycle approach in terms on injection schedules etc.
    but here it goes:
    Week 1-12 Sustanon250 @ 525mg/3/week
    Week 1-10 Deca @ 250mg/2/week
    Week 1-4 Dbol @ 30mg/day
    AI: Arimidex 0.5mg EOD
    Caber: On hand
    HCG: 500ius twice weekly

    PCT
    Clomid: 100/100/50/50
    Aromasin: 25/25/12.5/12.5

    22yo, 80kgs, 9-10%bf, 5-6 food meals+1 pwo shake a day. Currently at 350c, 320p, 75f plus minus 10% cbf at the moment. Less carbs/calories on rest days atm.
    Training 4 years plus.
    Doesnt drink, doesnt do shit, full on BB, barely missed my caloric goals, trains 5 times a week atm.
    DId first cycle of 500mg Test E 7-8 months back. Had good gains gained 7kgs, bodyfat remained the same. In terms of percentage it went down to 8%ish.
    I think the cycle looks solid. I like the d-bol kickstart. you can also throw it in weeks 8 thru 12 when gains start to wane.

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    Formestane is also similar to aromasin. No rebound and its a steroidal compound. It's getting harder to find legit aromasin but formeron by black lion is never going to be bunk and I've seen nothing but amazing things about it. I'm going to be trying it very soon. I'm using letro right now because of a small lump that developed when my aromasin turned out to be bunk. But it does have estro rebound. If ur interested in aromasin I'd try formeron bro.

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    You don't need to just have caber on hand. Use it, .5 e3d. Why wait for a problem to start when you can control it from the beginning

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