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    Dr Linus Pauling's Unified Theory of Cardiovascular Disease

    Over ten years ago, the two-time Nobel prize Laureate, Dr Linus Pauling and
    his associate Dr Matthias Rath, advocated and published a definitive thesis on
    the root cause, treatment, and actual cure for all forms of cardiovascular
    disease (CVD), including congestive heart failure, heart disease, and stroke.
    Today, cardiovascular related health problems together comprise fully one half
    of all causes of death in the US. Pauling and Rath's brilliant analysis of CVD
    is absolutely compelling and amply supported by numerous epidemiological and
    clinical studies. His unified theory of CVD constitutes one of the greatest
    breakthroughs in modern science, and yet has been almost completely ignored by
    the mainstream medical establishment, and received almost no press.


    Paulings Unparalleled Credentials

    Most doctors and other medical practitioners have not even heard the truth
    about CVD that Dr Pauling so convincingly revealed. This might be understandable
    if Pauling was just some anonymous unheard-of crackpot, lacking any serious
    credentials or reputation. But to the contrary, Pauling was one of the all-time
    greats of science. He was listed by the British Journal of Science in their list
    of the top 20 greatest scientists of all time. Pauling was the father of modern
    chemistry, unifying the fields of quantum mechanics and chemistry to reveal our
    modern understanding of chemical bonding and the synthesis of molecular
    compounds. His early work contributed greatly to the field genetics and our
    understanding of the double helix structure of DNA. Pauling was thirty years
    ahead of his time when he ushered in the modern era of alternative medicine with
    his concept of orthomolecular medicine and mega vitamin therapy. Orthomolecular
    medicine describes the practice of preventing and treating disease by providing
    the body with optimal amounts of substances, which are natural to the body.
    Linus Pauling first introduced the term, "orthomolecular" in a paper he wrote in
    the journal Science in 1968. This paper first described the theoretical
    foundations for what was later to become a specialty within complementary
    medicine In the sixties, Pauling waged almost single handedly a successful
    crusade against atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons; warning of the future
    fallout in the form of genetic diseases, cancers and numerous other serious
    health problems. His relentless work in this area yielded nuclear test banning
    treaties among the Soviets, US and other major powers, resulting in a cleaner,
    safer environment for us all.
    Pauling was a scientist with uncommon vision and foresight matched by few in
    history. He had an unrivaled determination to cut through established beliefs
    and fallacies to get to the truth of any matter of his focus. When he reviewed
    peer scientific studies he always drew his own conclusions and tested the
    evidence, not to be swayed or fooled by preconceived conclusions. Only now,
    thirty years after he introduced the concepts of orthomolecular medicine, has
    the mainstream medical community even begun to stir a little and recognize the
    huge value of essential vitamins and nutrients in high doses for the prevention
    of numerous medical conditions. Pauling bucked mainstream opinion and wisdom in
    many areas of science, chemistry, medicine, and politics. And more often than
    not he proved to be well ahead of his time. When Pauling first advocated
    mega-doses of Vitamin C back in the seventies as a cure for the common cold, he
    was poo-pooed and mocked by the mainstream medical community, and yet today
    millions of people worldwide have discovered the benefits of Paulings advice.
    Still a healthy and vigorous man in his late 80s and early 90s, during his last
    years, Dr Linus Pauling with his fellow collaborator, Dr Rath, published "A
    Unified Theory of Human Cardiovascular Disease Leading the Way to the Abolition
    of This Disease as a Cause for Human Mortality". This monumental work has
    largely gone unnoticed because of the entrenched opinions and dogma of the
    mainstream medical community and their overseers, the multi-billion dollar
    international pharmaceutical industry. The fact that you have probably not heard
    about this discovery in the mainstream media is disturbing and speaks volumes on
    the power of big money and the effectiveness of the pharmaceutical industry's
    disinformation campaigns.



    The Only Patent for the Cure of Cardiovascular Disease

    Pauling and Raths theory of CVD is so scientifically compelling and
    demonstrable that in 1994 they were granted the only US patent for the cure of
    cardiovascular disease. The
    non-prescription therapy advocated by Pauling and Rath has become know as the
    Pauling Therapy. The efficacy of the Pauling Therapy has been amply proven in
    thousands of cardiovascular patients who have been so fortunate to discover the
    remarkable treatment. The Pauling and Rath heart protocols in lower dosage
    levels will prevent cardiovascular disease and in higher dosages will actually
    reverse arterial plaque build up and reverse heart disease! Heart patients
    moving to the Pauling Therapy commonly avoid open-heart surgery and angioplasty.
    This is accomplished by dealing directly with the root causes of CVD and
    arterial plaque buildup. Almost without exception patients experience rapid
    recovery.


    thought that would be an interesting read... thoughts?

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    I'm only aware of one documented treatment that has reversed cardiovascular disease, and that is a low fat plant based diet. Both dr ornish and dr esselstein accomplished it w very similar diets.
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    i mean yeah there's similar things to this all over google and shit.. i just thought it was interesting as CHD is something that us placebo abusers worry about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    i mean yeah there's similar things to this all over google and shit.. i just thought it was interesting as CHD is something that us placebo abusers worry about
    I'm just saying that the only verifiable reversal of heart disease was done by this guy, so any claims that he did it are probably not provable. I'm skeptical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
    I'm just saying that the only verifiable reversal of heart disease was done by this guy, so any claims that he did it are probably not provable. I'm skeptical.
    *these guys, not this guy
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    i figured more people would be interesting in this considering how they care about cholesterol (even though it's largely irrelevant) and how many steroid users resort to statins

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    Intravenous vitamin c?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    i figured more people would be interesting in this considering how they care about cholesterol (even though it's largely irrelevant) and how many steroid users resort to statins
    largely irrelevant? lol
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    apparently 5-10g of vitamin C, 2-5g L-lysine, and 1-2g of L-proline is the trick

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    Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
    largely irrelevant? lol

    i mean like... calling hdl "good" and ldl "bad".. apparently CHD has a lot more to do with triglycerides, vldl, high BP, etc.. and less to do with not eating eggs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    i mean like... calling hdl "good" and ldl "bad".. apparently CHD has a lot more to do with triglycerides, vldl, high BP, etc.. and less to do with not eating eggs..
    yeah, you are right here. it's not as simple as hdl vs ldl, but cholesterol is still a very serious risk factor, as well as the other ones you listed.

    We do know that the cultures with the lowest rates of CHD eat primarily a plant based diet though. Most of these areas are also within what is called Longevity zones too, meaning the people there live longer than any other humans. Loma Linda CA is one of them. they have a high percentage of seventh day adventists and sda's are traditionally vegetarian, don't smoke and exercise. There is some really good research on sda's because of their extremely healthy profiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
    yeah, you are right here. it's not as simple as hdl vs ldl, but cholesterol is still a very serious risk factor, as well as the other ones you listed.

    i think the oxidation of ldl (especially vldl) is the issue as far as cholesterol is concerned... and it sticking to the walls of our arteries. apparently, the vitamin c, lysine, and proline combination is supposed to keep the plaque from sticking to our arteries and it removes plaque that's already stuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
    yeah, you are right here. it's not as simple as hdl vs ldl, but cholesterol is still a very serious risk factor, as well as the other ones you listed.

    We do know that the cultures with the lowest rates of CHD eat primarily a plant based diet though. Most of these areas are also within what is called Longevity zones too, meaning the people there live longer than any other humans. Loma Linda CA is one of them. they have a high percentage of seventh day adventists and sda's are traditionally vegetarian, don't smoke and exercise. There is some really good research on sda's because of their extremely healthy profiles.


    the avoidance of dairy, sugar, and wheat/gluaten/bread-type shit is probably advantageous



    i read that bread (no matter what kind it is) spikes blood sugar more than sugar itself.. can you believe that shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    the avoidance of dairy, sugar, and wheat/gluaten/bread-type shit is probably advantageous



    i read that bread (no matter what kind it is) spikes blood sugar more than sugar itself.. can you believe that shit?
    The question is does that matter? I don't think that whole grain bread as part of a healthy diet rich in fruits, veggies, legumes, and other whole grains is a problem.

    I agree that limiting sugar, dairy and processed meats is a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
    The question is does that matter? I don't think that whole grain bread as part of a healthy diet rich in fruits, veggies, legumes, and other whole grains is a problem.

    I agree that limiting sugar, dairy and processed meats is a good idea.


    spiking blood sugar? yeah it's a problem if done at the wrong times.. leads to insulin insensitivity which makes you fat as fuck (trust me on this one), which is bad for your health in a number of ways. insulin insensitivity eventually leads to diabetes then shit gets all bad from there.


    excess fruit also increases blood pressure and triglycerides... a lot apparently. id stick with blueberries, raspberries and lemons/limes (i feel they have the most redemptive value), and eat those in very limited amounts. just cuz the fda says it's healthy.. doesnt mean it is.. E.G. pubmed/mayoclinic says that coconut oil is bad for you lulz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    spiking blood sugar? yeah it's a problem if done at the wrong times.. leads to insulin insensitivity which makes you fat as fuck (trust me on this one), which is bad for your health in a number of ways. insulin insensitivity eventually leads to diabetes then shit gets all bad from there.


    excess fruit also increases blood pressure and triglycerides... a lot apparently. id stick with blueberries, raspberries and lemons/limes (i feel they have the most redemptive value), and eat those in very limited amounts. just cuz the fda says it's healthy.. doesnt mean it is.. E.G. pubmed/mayoclinic says that coconut oil is bad for you lulz
    Obesity leads to insulin insensitivity. Vegetarians and endurance athletes who eat about 60% carbs have extremely low rates of diabetes.

    You do know that protein causes an insulin spike too right?

    And 2 servings of fruit and 6-8 servings of veggies a day is very healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
    Obesity leads to insulin insensitivity. Vegetarians and endurance athletes who eat about 60% carbs have extremely low rates of diabetes.

    You do know that protein causes an insulin spike too right?

    And 2 servings of fruit and 6-8 servings of veggies a day is very healthy.


    by insulin spike i meant increased blood glucose... which protein does not do IIRC



    and you said "diet rich in fruit etc", figured you meant more than 2 servings a day lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    by insulin spike i meant increased blood glucose... which protein does not do IIRC



    and you said "diet rich in fruit etc", figured you meant more than 2 servings a day lol..
    I still see nothing wrong with having a temporary spike in blood glucose, our bodies are perfectly capable of taking care of it unless you have diabetes. In that case, you're either type 1 and need to inject insulin, or you're fat and have type 2 diabetes and need to exercise and lose weight. It's a reversible disease most of the time.

    the recommendation is to have 8-9 servings of fruits and veggies/day with most coming from veggies.

    I still question your assertion that having spikes in blood sugar leads to insulin insensitivity. I believe the biggest risk factor for type 2 diabetes (insulin insensitivity) is obesity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
    I still see nothing wrong with having a temporary spike in blood glucose, our bodies are perfectly capable of taking care of it unless you have diabetes. In that case, you're either type 1 and need to inject insulin, or you're fat and have type 2 diabetes and need to exercise and lose weight. It's a reversible disease most of the time.

    the recommendation is to have 8-9 servings of fruits and veggies/day with most coming from veggies.

    I still question your assertion that having spikes in blood sugar leads to insulin insensitivity. I believe the biggest risk factor for type 2 diabetes (insulin insensitivity) is obesity.


    i meant elevated blood sugar, having your BS elevated over and over again will lead to insulin insensitivity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    i meant elevated blood sugar, having your BS elevated over and over again will lead to insulin insensitivity
    Insulin insensitivity is diabetes. If what you suggest we're true, most of the world would have diabetes. Vegetarians, athletes, Japanese and most Asian cultures eat mostly carbs yet don't have diabetes unless they get fat.
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    I know a guy who works at Hoffman-Larouche in west jersey, he works in the Vitamin C portion of the plant, he told me as long as he has worked there he has never had a cold. Maybe the SD is on to something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctr10 View Post
    I know a guy who works at Hoffman-Larouche in west jersey, he works in the Vitamin C portion of the plant, he told me as long as he has worked there he has never had a cold. Maybe the SD is on to something.
    Lol, is this a real post about vitamin c and heart disease?
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
    Insulin insensitivity is diabetes. If what you suggest we're true, most of the world would have diabetes. Vegetarians, athletes, Japanese and most Asian cultures eat mostly carbs yet don't have diabetes unless they get fat.

    by insulin insensitivity i meant insulin resistance... which definitely helps one to get very fat, which increases chances of developing diabetes immensely...


    i have been resistant to insulin before as a result of my diet, and i got pretty chunky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    by insulin insensitivity i meant insulin resistance... which definitely helps one to get very fat, which increases chances of developing diabetes immensely...


    i have been resistant to insulin before as a result of my diet, and i got pretty chunky
    those are 2 different terms for the same thing. They basically mean that the body doesn't utilize insulin properly, leading to elevated blood sugars for an extended period. It's usually measured after fasting for 12 hours. This does not mean that having a blood sugar spike after a meal is a bad thing. It's only a problem if your body doesn't bring it down for an extended period of time.

    Are you aware of any science that suggests that eating carbs leads to insulin resistance? How did you measure your insulin resistance?

    Obesity and a sedentary lifestyle are the 2 main culprits with tons of science behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphys88 View Post
    Lol, is this a real post about vitamin c and heart disease?
    No, just something good about Vitamin C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Donkey View Post
    Are there any actual studies done on his work that you're aware of?
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    There's so many quacks out there that have claims about curing major diseases yet they always fail when put to the test. But still, they have their followers, and it seems that these forums are full of those types.

    I'm not saying this is the case, I was just going rounds w a moderator of another forum who swears coffee enemas cure cancer and the FDA is covering up all the evidence.
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