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    need recommendation

    Hi everyone,

    Looking to do a cycle of var (never tried it) and was wondering if any of you tried and was very satisfied with ones gear!?
    Who's var would you recommend and what was your experience?

    Thanks for all the input!

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    dont do a "cycle of var"
    do a first cycle that is:
    1) healthy (or healthiest)
    2) productive (good gains vs sides)
    3) not over priced
    4) basic


    an oral only cycle is none of these.
    run test for 12-14 weeks. at the most add var to it but i would rec not bothering, if anything add tbol. but again why even add a liver toxic oral? just run some test. and in time maybe at maste or deca to the test for other cycles.

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    unless your a female a var only cycle wont do much for ya.."bang for the buck" isnt worth it..a low-mid dosed test only cycle is the way to go for a first timer..300-400mgs ew of a long ester test will do..

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    Re: need recommendation

    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    unless your a female a var only cycle wont do much for ya.."bang for the buck" isnt worth it..a low-mid dosed test only cycle is the way to go for a first timer..300-400mgs ew of a long ester test will do..
    Agreed, but would bump up to 500mg.

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    Thanks for the advice!

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    I heard the DEA sells some good "var"

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    DBol (blue hearts) works just perfect as first cycle

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    Testosterone. Its the parent hormone for all steroids. The way I feel about it is that you have to know how your body reacts to it. Then with that knowledge(like what side effects you are prone to)you can judge which steroids are right for you. I would have some tamoxifen or letro, one or the other on hand in case you are sensitive to elevated estrogen. You don't want gyno to start cause its tuff to get rid of if you can at all. And do a lot of research (if you haven't). There's always something new you can learn. This so you can make informed decisions. Good luck!

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    DEA? Great advice thanks! I think they have a local office in my area...

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    need recommendation

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    DEA? Great advice thanks! I think they have a local office in my area...
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    I want to avoid water retention... Hit the ceiling and hoping to get 5-10 lbs with gear so I will be exactly where I want to be...I would like to avoid looking like a water balloon, gain water weight and lose it when I am off the juice...

    Appreciate all advice guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kfredrik View Post
    DBol (blue hearts) works just perfect as first cycle
    ^ Really, your going to tell this guy to do a dbol only cycle as his first cycle? I hope your just kidding!

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    Hmmmm....I guess the problem is you don't really know who is giving you a good advice with some knowledge behind it...after all people here don't know each other (besides a few) so this maybe not the best way to get good advice!

    Thanks anyway to all who replied!

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    Stickies are there for a reason, you skipped right over what you need to know, and to keep water retention down just take a water pill like razor cuts from iml

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