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Well said, now I just need a new country to call home.
Well said, now I just need a new country to call home.
No, the people need to rise up and take this country back.
Lam, with respect what planet do you live on? World history is full of examples of people taking down ruling elites. Since you have tendency towards leaning to the left, does Cuba ring a bell? The only problem is usually the revolution just trades one set of ruling elites for another.
Lam, with respect what planet do you live on? World history is full of examples of people taking down ruling elites. Since you have tendency towards leaning to the left, does Cuba ring a bell? The only problem is usually the revolution just trades one set of ruling elites for another.
I dont even bother to read what Lam types.
then name one....
and this isn't about communist country's turning into pseudo-capitalist. name one time when the corrupt ruling elite has been successfully replaced with a non-corrupt ruling elite.
at no time in world history has an impoverished citizenry "taken back" a country from a ruling elite. it sounds good on paper but in reality it's never happened. the end result of the oligarchy is economic collapse.
mathematics beats ideology every single time. that's the difference between science vs beliefs, aka facts vs non-facts.
then name one....
and this isn't about communist country's turning into pseudo-capitalist. name one time when the corrupt ruling elite has been successfully replaced with a non-corrupt ruling elite.
The United States for one.
The math is there are more of us with guns than there are of them with guns.
Smoothy you and I rarely see eye to eye on things, but in this I consider you a brother. well done withe the appropriate links.Since it's relevant to the whole debate/argument, I think it's appropriate to drop some quick FBI links here. It's the latest available reports from 2011, and maybe 2012 data will be available soon enough.
The general, if vaguely titled, list of data tables:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc....s.-2011/tables
Murder victims by weapon, 2007 - 2011:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...de-data-table-8
General violent crime stats from 1992 to 2011:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc.../tables/table-1
Murder by state and method, 2011:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...tables/table-20
Essentially, tragedies like Newtown aside, the data seems to suggest that violent crime in general has gone down over the last 20 years. Might be good to cite if you're writing a representative.
but your wrong. each batch of politicians is just as corrupt as the last because the entire system is legally corrupt since the late 1800's. and the 2008 financial collapse and the current stalled US economy is a sign of the times.
you can't create wealth out of thin air and pay the majority of the workers poverty wages and expect an economy to last but a short while. there are no economists that even think capitalism and the current global financial system in it's current form is sustainable because it isn't. those same words having been repeated by the Club of Rome, the World Bank, the FSB and the BIS.
no economic system has lasted more than a couple hundred years.
and what do all those guns matter when they have shit bottled up in Fort Detrick that can make your skin slough off your face or have you shitting out your own intestines? what's a gun going to do against that?
how does a gun change supreme court decisions from the 1800's making corporations equal to real people?
how does a gun change supreme court decisions in the 1800's regarding lobbying?
how does a gun remove the central bank from controlling the US?
how does a gun change the completely ignorant that think inequality doesn't matter?
it's not the 1700's anymore and you can't fix stupid...
Smoothy you and I rarely see eye to eye on things, but in this I consider you a brother. well done withe the appropriate links.
You guys can't be serious. I'm for some gun control, and you have less than a zero chance of overtaking the elites. You have guns, they have aircraft, tanks, nukes, and a host of other things you will never have access to.
The Revolutionary War took down the ruling elites in this country.
You guys can't be serious. I'm for some gun control, and you have less than a zero chance of overtaking the elites. You have guns, they have aircraft, tanks, nukes, and a host of other things you will never have access to. They also have a trained military at their disposal. We are also a population of people who believe in capitalism, you don't think your neighbor would sell you down the river for a small sum of money or land?
You guys can't be serious. I'm for some gun control, and you have less than a zero chance of overtaking the elites. You have guns, they have aircraft, tanks, nukes, and a host of other things you will never have access to. They also have a trained military at their disposal. We are also a population of people who believe in capitalism, you don't think your neighbor would sell you down the river for a small sum of money or land? Then why do you think someone who's never met you that is in the military wouldn't do the same? Yes, we won the Revolutionary War against a country that was thousands of miles away who only had boats. If they had tanks and aircraft and we didn't we'd still be saluting the Queen. Get real, a revolution would be squashed faster than when we invaded Iraq.
no the revolutionary war is how great britain suckered the US into debt via war and how the privately owned "Bank of North America" was chartered in 1782 after Congress would not renew the charter for the 1st US central bank, the Bank of England.
one central bank was simply replaced by another....nothing changed as the international money lenders once again had control of US currency.
So we are still under British rule?