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What works for you? bulk/cut, recomp, or cut and maintain

da11

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Not sure if I should go for a clean bulk then cut, recomp, or straight cut and maintenance

Looking for pre cycle, on cycle, and post cycle nutrition strategies based on info below


My stats/experience

5'10" (small framed)
177lbs
13-14% bf - mostly midsection, can see upper abs
39 years old
5-6 short, low dose cycles past 3 years (50mg test prop eod, 50 mg tren ace eod) typical 6-8 week cycle for me
Started lifting at age 16 off and on but consistently for the past 3.5 years.


Current diet (looking to drop fat before cycle)

Meal 1 - oats, banana, whey protein
Meal 2 - 1/2 serving fruit, Egg burrito on whole wheat tortilla, 2 egg whits, 1 whole egg, fresh salsa
Meal 3 - 1 serving fruit and 1 string cheese
Meal 4 - 4-6 oz Chicken, 1/4 cup brown rice, 1/4 cup black beans, 1TB low fat sour cream, fresh salsa
Meal 5 - 4-6oz chicken,1TB light mayo, 1TB low fat sour cream, 1/2 apple, 1 cup cabbage, 2 large whole grain crackers
Meal 6 - 4-8oz chicken, bbq sauce, 4oz sweet potato, 1tb low fat sour cream
PWO protein/carb shake

Meal 6 is at 7pm or 1.5 hours before workout at 8:30pm

Drink at least 1 gallon water/day

Snack on fat free yogurt, fruit, peanuts

I figure I'm at 1800 calories with 200 grams protein

Some meals I struggle to finish that amount of food but then I'm
hungry within an hour. Hard to eat clean and get enough calories
I think.


Training:

Lift heavy weight low reps on Mon/Tue off Wed then lighter weight 15 reps on Thurs/Fri
Rotate between a few different regimens but mainly stick to the compound
lifts - squats, deads, pull ups, db incline chest, db shoulder press, etc every set until
failure

Do cardio for 30 minutes about 3 times per week usually right after lifting.


So I will be starting this cylce the first of May:

Weeks 1-4 50mg dbol ed
Weeks 1-4 50mg tren ace eod (fina powder)
Weeks 1-4 100mg test prop eod
Weeks 5-8 25-50mg test prop eod
Weeks 1-8 12.5mcg T3

Aromasin and vits/mins on cycle
Aromasin and Torem PCT

Above oct and pct have worked keeping me from acne, gyno sides. And yes I've had them
at those low doses when I don't use ancillaries.

Have HCG not reconstituted yet on hand from previous cycle. Not sure if it's even still good or not??

The first four weeks can be a bulk or cut depending on diet and was planning
on cutting for sure the last 4 weeks.

Trying to minimize sides and recovery by doing shorter cycles.

My goal is to get to or under 10%bf and weigh 170-175lbs. I am looking for some various strategies and ideas that
have worked for anyone with similar stats/experience/goals/etc

I am a hard gainer and struggle to keep on mass after a cycle without getting belly fat back.
 
Are you cutting on 1800 calories without hormones?

Run tren acetate the whole 8 weeks -- beautiful compound there.

-Matt
 
Are you cutting on 1800 calories without hormones?

Run tren acetate the whole 8 weeks -- beautiful compound there.

-Matt

Yes, but I'm not losing much weight scale wise and I definitely look less muscular. Although
I have noticed the waste in my jeans is looser.

Do you think I should only cut when I'm on cycle? I didn't lose a whole lot of fat last cycle even though I ate
cleaner than normal. Maybe I wasn't getting enough calories and then when I cheated I held on to
the fat??? I struggle with diet even though I've spent countless hours reading.

My thought was to shed some pounds before the next cycle and try and minimize muscle loss
with heavy lifting and more protein.

Good idea on the tren. I thought about it but the last time I ran it for 6 weeks and
the high BP sides were scaring me by week 5. I've ran tren in 4 cycles with minimal sides but my last
one was the worst. Maybe had something to do with more concentration of BA/BB when I
mixed my last batch of fina???
 
Im thinking about doing a recomp

Maybe bulk diet m/w/f with lifting and below maintenance
With cardio on tues/thurs/sat

Thoughts?
 
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