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    Fatty's Book Of Life ''To The Fridge And Beyond''






    About me. Im 27, 6'4, 290lbs as of this morning 15-16% bodyfat.

    Been natural my entire life. Started serious bodybuilding freshman year of high school. I went to a rough school and lived in a rough area and bodybuilding my way of being respected and not victimized. Back then it was a way of life but its become an art to me and I love it. My fitness goal is to go pro next year or the year after. Enough about me. First Cycle:

    Weeks 1-5 600mg test cyp a week. Split up and taken Sunday and Wednesday.
    Weeks 6-8 750mg test E a week. Split for Sun and Wed.

    If I feel any sides coming on I'll take Adex .5 EOD for a week probably. Ill check in every week and let you all know whats up. First injection while I was nervous as shit was painless and super smooth. Kind of shocked at how easy it is.

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    Adex at .5 mg E3D weeks 9 and 10
    clomid at 50mg a day for 2-3 weeks starting at week 11.

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    I remember my first pin
    hit a blood vessel and injected fast, passed out for a few seconds and came crying to IM for advice lol

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    wow, That's one helluva first inject experience! Way to push through and not be a quitter

    Mine was smooth as silk💉
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    I paid a few extra dollars for higher end needles. I grew up around a guy that used to pin himself too much in the same spot I kind of have a fear of having big red open wounds like he had. My thigh is sore where I injected but seems fine. My pump in the gym this morning was nuts. I havent been pumped like that since I was a kid.

    I do Monday - Chest/bis. No set amount of sets I just work out until I cant even lift light weight for more than a few reps. Usually 10ish sets.
    Tuesday - upper legs. Squats, leg press, butt machine, quad extensions, ham curls, abductors and adductors. Sometimes Ill jump back on the squat when Im done just to check if I have any ATP left that needs to be destroyed.
    Wednesday - abs and calves. I do like 10 sets of abs random things. Then get on the calves and do like 15-20 sets with almost no break between light weight 20ish reps. Ive tried a trillion things to make my calves grow. Overtraining the fuck out of them swells them up. Theyre rarely not sore from the previous week. It hurts and I can feel the pain exciting the hell out of my brain stem but I just keep going.
    Thursday - back. hardcore of course
    Friday - shoulders/tris. I do a shitload of shoulder sets and some varied light weight high rep heavy weight medium rep tri work outs.

    I rarely do the same work out twice. Calves are the only muscle that gets the same treatment week to week. I always had stupid calves but now theyre thick and getting bigger.

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    GOOD WORK!

    Add some photos ;-)

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    remember to EAT.
    remember to drink way more water then you think you need.
    remember that your going to be horny all the time. get a girlfriend maybe 2 or 3 and some maybe some porn.
    oh yeah and EAT

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    remember to EAT.
    remember to drink way more water then you think you need.
    remember that your going to be horny all the time. get a girlfriend maybe 2 or 3 and some maybe some porn.
    oh yeah and EAT

    I woke up this morning and stretched and groin started to cramp. Thats very unusual to me I drink a lot. But gonna have to up that. Maybe get some gatorade. Ive been insatiably hungry too. Eating like a mad man.

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    I think you are experiencing a placebo effect. Test with long esters such as e or c don't even really kick in fully for about 4-5 wks. You will for sure notice when it really does. If you wanted to you can even go get blood test to check the quality of your gear.

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    No one mentioned that his cycle is too short; 12 weeks minimum with long ester test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    No one mentioned that his cycle is too short; 12 weeks minimum with long ester test.
    Plus his pct looks like shit... I always run mine at higher doses than that

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    Yates did 5 week cycles I dont subscribe to the idea that you need to do anything for X amount of time. And tests start working as soon as theyre in you. The logic of it taking 4-5 weeks to kick in just doesnt compute. Cyp is done in like 6 days. What you take the first 2 weeks wont even be in your system the 4th week. Am I right? Im curious why people think tests dont work almost immediately. Not trying to be condescending. I really am curious. Itd be the only drug Ive ever heard of that you have to wait weeks for an effect. A guy that sort of mentored me growing up put on size week 1 and a lot of size week 2 of his cycles. And if everything goes well I likely will do 10-12 weeks. PCT amounts are mostly based on blood tests. You dont want to destroy all your estrogen if you dont have to. So planning on that.

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    I run 8-10 week cycles and prefer them over longer ones, every single time I don't care if it's long esther or not. I feel effects of the injection in the first week every time I always have. After 8 weeks the dosage for test MUST increase for continued gains, "homeostasis" state is a factor at this point.
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    If you an immediate test boost then you should use prop/tne . The reason cyp/e take longer to work is because of the esters. Pct= post cycle therapy not an ai. Clomid is not an ai it will help restart your natural test. Short Esters
    Positives
    *Quicker clearance time -- if you have a bad reaction, it will be out of your system far sooner than longer esters, good for trying new steroids
    *Quicker onset -- no need to frontload, begin taking effect 3-4x sooner than longer esters
    *Usually less estrogen/DHT related side effects such as bloat, male pattern baldness, and androgenic sides like deeper voice
    *Best for PCT, easier to know when to begin PCT due to shorter half-lives

    Negatives
    *More frequent injections -- every other day and every day injects
    *Most people report shorter esters being more painful, could just be brand specific, as I know theres some human grade test prop thats painless

    Thats the general rundown, im a fan for shorter esters, but theyre definetly not for the needle-phobes.

    Common Short Ester Gear
    - Testosterone Propionate/Suspension
    - Stanozolol (winstrol)
    - Nandrolone Phenylproptionate (NPP)
    - Trenbolone Acetate (fina)
    - Drostanolone Proptionate (masteron)

    Common Long Ester Gear
    - Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Decanoate/Undecanoate
    - Trenbolone Enanthate/Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (parabolan)
    - Boldenone Undecylenate (equipoise)
    - Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca-Durabolin)Clomid (Clomiphine citrate)


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    Clomid was one of the original drugs used in post-cycle-therapy to stave off gynocomastia and raise the body?s natural testosterone levels. There are some side effects involved with heavy prolonged use, such as vision problems, and there are more effective substances on the market that do the same thing, but Clomid is still an effective and inexpensive compound for any athlete?s post-cycle-therapy.



    Clomid? is the commonly referenced brand name for the drug clomiphene citrate. It is not an anabolic steroid, but a prescription drug generally prescribed to women as a fertility aid. This is due to the fact that clomiphene citrate shows a pronounced ability to stimulate ovulation. This is accomplished by blocking/minimizing the effects of estrogen in the body. To be more specific Clomid is chemically a synthetic estrogen with both agonist/antagonist properties, and is very similar in structure and action to Nolvadex. In certain target tissues it can block the ability of estrogen to bind with its corresponding receptor. Its clinical use is therefore to oppose the negative feedback of estrogens on the hypothalamic-pituitary-ovarian axis, which enhances the release of LH and FSH. This of course can help to induce ovulation.
    For athletic purposes, Clomid does not offer a tremendous benefit to women. In men however, the elevation in both follicle stimulating hormone and (primarily) luteinizing hormone will cause natural testosterone production to increase. This effect is especially beneficial to the athlete at the conclusion of a steroid cycle when endogenous testosterone levels are depressed. If endogenous testosterone levels are not brought beck to normal, a dramatic loss in size and strength is likely to occur once the anabolics have been removed. This is due to the fact that without testosterone (or other androgens), the catabolic hormone cortisol becomes the dominant force affecting muscle protein synthesis (quickly bringing about a catabolic metabolism). Often referred to as the post-steroid crash, it can quickly eat up much of your newly acquired muscle. Clomid can play a crucial role in preventing this crash in athletic performance. As for women, the only real use for Clomid is the possible management of endogenous estrogen levels near contest time. This can increase fat loss and muscularity, particularly in female trouble areas such as this hips and thighs. Clomid however often produces troubling side effects in women (discussed below), and is likewise not in very high demand among this group of athletes.
    Male users generally find that a daily intake of 50-100 mg (1-2 tablets) over a four to six week period will bring testosterone production back to an acceptable level. A very common regime of dosing is; 300 md/day 1, 100 mg/day for days 2-11, and 50 mg/day for days 12-21. This raise in testosterone should occur slowly but evenly throughout the period of intake. Since an immediate boost in testosterone is often desirable, many prefer to combine Clomid with HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) for the first week or two after the steroids have been removed. The kick-start from HCG also helps to restore the normal ability for the testes to respond to endogenous LH, which may be hindered for some time after the cycle is ended due to a prolonged state of inactivity. Once the HCG is stopped, the user continues treatment with Clomid alone. HCG should not be used for longer than two or three weeks though, as the resulting increased testosterone and estrogen levels may again initiate negative feedback inhibition at the hypothalamus. When planning your ancillary drug program, it is also important to remember that injectable steroids can stay active for a long duration. Using ancillary drugs the first week after a long acting injectable like Sustanon has been stopped may prove to be wholly ineffective. Instead, the athlete should wait for two to three weeks, to a point where androgen levels will be diminishing. Here the body will be primed and ready to restore testosterone production.
    Clomid and HCG are also occasionally used periodically during a steroid cycle, in an effort to prevent natural testosterone levels from diminishing. In many instances this practice can prove difficult however, especially when using strong androgens for longer periods of time. There is also no exact method for using the two drugs in this manner. Some have experimented by periodically administering small doses of HCG along with one or two tablets of Clomid, perhaps for a few days at a stretch followed by a longer break. An on/off schedule would be implemented; for fear that this combination may lose some effectiveness if used continuously for this purpose. This method of intake may prove to be effective, although it is really much more feasible to stimulate testosterone production after the cycle than to try and maintain it for the long duration during.
    In addition to helping with the post-cycle testosterone crash, this drug can also help with elevated estrogen levels during a steroid cycle. A high estrogen bevel puts an athlete in serious risk of developing gynecomastia, which is an obvious unwanted side effect. With the intake of Clomid, the athlete can hopefully reduce his risk for developing gynecomastia. The estrogen ?blocking? properties of Clomid appear to be slightly weaker than Nolvadex in comparison however, which is why it is not usually thought of as an equal substitute for estrogen maintenance. Of course both drugs have similar actions in the body. and are relatively interchangeable for this purpose. Clomid can likewise also be used as a maintenance anti-estrogen throughout the duration of steroid cycle with good confidence, just as is done with Nolvadex. In most instances this will prove equally sufficient, the drug effectively minimizing the activity of estrogen in the body and warding off gyno and excess water/fat retention. Unfortunately just as with Nolvadex this is not always the case however, and many find it necessary to addition another anti-estrogenic drug. The most common adjunct is Proviron, an oral DHT used to competitively lower aromatase activity and raise the androgen to estrogen ratio. The Clomid/Nolvadex and Proviron combination is extremely effective, although we could alternately replace them both with a more specific aromatase inhibitor such as Arimidex,Femara, or Aromasin. While stronger at combating estrogen in most cases, these drugs are also typically much more costly.
    As for toxicity and side effects, Clomid is considered a very safe drug. Bodybuilders seldom report any problems, but listed possible side effects do include hot flashes, nausea, dizziness, headaches and temporarily blurred vision. Such side effects usually only appear in females however, as they feel the effects of estrogen manipulation much more readily than men. While female athletes can clearly gain some benefit from this substance, estrogen manipulation is probably not the most comfortable way to go about cutting up. Should it still be used for such purposed and side effects do become pronounced, the drug of course is to be discontinued and (at least) a break taken from it.
    Clomiphene citrate is widely available on the black market in a variety of brand names as well as generic tabs and liquid versions.

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    Sinus infection has thrown a wrench in my gears a little. But I can force feed myself through a headache ha. Other than that things are going well. Havent seen much change at all. I think Ive lost a tiny bit of body fat and hardened up a little. Weight is about the same. My weight fluctuates a lot it seems.

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    Its weird I dont feel much different. Im still just as sore as I used to be. I might recover like 10-20% faster but its not like I feel better by the end of the day like some people make you believe doing 2 a days and shit. My girl says I look bigger but I dont feel much different. Its definitely working though I can tell my muscles are tighter and firmer. I get a much better pump than I used to. I dont feel like some super human but I do feel the same way I did bodybuilding as a teenager. Hopefully the effectiveness increases or at the least stays the same. I imagine I can put on some weight and recomp my body a little to have more muscle and lower bodyfat. I took a .5mg of adex last week to combat some puffyness but that was probably a bad idea it helped a little with the puffyness but made me feel lethargic and weak as hell. I need my estrogen. The puffyness subsided anyways its gone now. I have a little acne on my chest but other than that no sides.

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    Still going strong. Libido is about the same as it was prior to taking anything. I had some serious sexsomnia the other night and banged my girl in my sleep. I only remember it really vaguely like a dream. Shes been supportive but now shes really supportive ha. She was emailing me all day from work loving me. I can tell my muscles are a lot tighter. Ive been able to take really good naps during the day and my sleeping has been a little better also waking up earlier due to hunger.

    My weight is 297-299lbs and my bodyfat has dropped a couple percent. Ive probably put on like 2-4lbs of muscle 4-10lbs of water/glycogen retention and lost 5-6lbs of fat. Just guesses of course. My legs have swelled up a pretty lot. My sweat pants are about to be tight and my glutes have gotten a lot bigger. Im a white boy with a big ass ha. Ive been craving turkey sandwiches non stop so Im killing a bunch of them a day. Probably eating 4-4500 calories a day. I probably couldnt stomach too much more. The most I can eat is 5k calories a day. I just dont have any appetite and food makes me sick beyond that. Im sure I have a slow metabolism.

    Oh also wanted to mention crazy shoulder pain. Ive read a thousand times it hurts like hell in your shoulder but wtf...it hurt starting like an hour after still does 3 days later. I think Im gonna stick to both quads and both glutes. Not gonna be thrilled about the glute pain but whatever. Ill do it after legs day. Quad pain is minimal.
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    F'ing PIP in my shoulder has kept me out of the gym today and yesterday. And its PIP from an injection 5 days ago. Its just now starting to get better. The other day I couldnt even lift my arm. Cant put 300mg of test cyp into a newby delt.

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    Have you tried ventral glutes yet? Between them, dorsal glutes, and quads you can exclude any other sites unless you're going with ED pinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemalt View Post
    Have you tried ventral glutes yet? Between them, dorsal glutes, and quads you can exclude any other sites unless you're going with ED pinning.
    No not yet. I sit all day for work I thought itd be better to have the pain in my shoulder rather than my glutes. But glutes are the target in the future. Delts suck.

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    Vent glutes are my first spot i pinned definitely my fav spot to pin

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    Quote Originally Posted by longworthb View Post
    Vent glutes are my first spot i pinned definitely my fav spot to pin
    Yea thats next. Gotta read up on it.

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    I tried online but i could never figure out how to find my Vent Glute.
    So I learned to use delt, chest, ass, and quads.

    Quote Originally Posted by longworthb View Post
    Vent glutes are my first spot i pinned definitely my fav spot to pin

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    Quote Originally Posted by larry79 View Post
    I tried online but i could never figure out how to find my Vent Glute.
    So I learned to use delt, chest, ass, and quads.
    If I do delt again itll have to be a very low amount.

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    Start of week #3. Feel strong. Feel really good. PIP in my shoulder went away, took 7 days. My weight is still high 290's. Got a good back workout today. No sides, no acne, no puffyness. My libido is probably a bit higher than normal. My girl keeps asking me if my dick hurts because of how hard my erections are ha. Sperm count is probably 1/2 of what it used to be. Other than that going strong. Test Cyp is low gonna switch to Test E or Sust. Can do T400 or Sust 250. Both are supposed to hurt like hell but...Those are the options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C3p0 View Post
    Can do T400 or Sust 250. Both are supposed to hurt like hell but...Those are the options.
    Sack the fuck up!

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    A long time natural's first cycle.

    ^ this

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    Sack the fuck up!

    Yessir!

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    Some faggot threatened to ban me for a post I put up. I dont put up with that shit. Im done here Im not coming back good luck to you guys. Peace. I wouldnt care but he grabbed a random rule that didnt apply at all to try to boss me around. If the mods here are that much of cunts...fuck em I'll go somewhere else.

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    Don't let one stupid thing cause you to run off. Test should be setting in now.

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