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    just trust me stay away from maxing you are young and you will get stronger even if you are not trying to max, the years of getting stronger did not even start for you, so just concentrate on form and technique and you will get stronger i can assure you. being obsessed with maxing will inevitably lead to injury ask me
    as for the stats, at your age i could not lift more than 60 kgs at a body weight of 65 kgs or so, later in my late 20's i lifted 315 (around 143 kgs)in a competition at a bodyweight of 74 kgs which is more than 190% without even seriously training for it, i did not enter in the squat and deadlift competitions because i never go real heavy on those. later when i trained heavier and gained some weight i maxed unofficially 325 lbs at a bodyweight of around 78 kgs. but then with time and injuries i learned my lesson. I was all natural never had done any AAS at that time, up until today ( i am 52, i never saw anybody natural lift at 190% ). now at 52 years old and 76 kgs i still can do 100 kgs for about 6-7 reps. To tell you the truth your lifts are very impressive for your age so don't worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69ingchipmunks View Post
    Thanks pal, I do use power lifting sometimes as a method for BBing but often I stay away. But when when I read that statement, I don't know that many people my age or much older that can lift those stats for bench press
    Well bro, you're still very young. You've got PLENTY of time to build up. Don't try to make gains too fast. Recipe for disaster. Learn proper form and stick with a sound lifting plan. Even if you can add 5-10lbs (2.5-5kg) per month to your basic lifts that will add up to a lot each year. Think about it. I've told countless youngster to grow slow but they don't want to. They want it too fast. So years later they're no where near where they could be if they did it the right way. That's even IF they make any measurable progress at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaMaster View Post
    Well bro, you're still very young. You've got PLENTY of time to build up. Don't try to make gains too fast. Recipe for disaster. Learn proper form and stick with a sound lifting plan. Even if you can add 5-10lbs (2.5-5kg) per month to your basic lifts that will add up to a lot each year. Think about it. I've told countless youngster to grow slow but they don't want to. They want it too fast. So years later they're no where near where they could be if they did it the right way. That's even IF they make any measurable progress at all.
    Yeah thanks for the advice man

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    and by the way... those numbers you posted are very good numbers for your age and starting out.

    Also, only compare yourself to yourself. This is a personal endevour.

    • Set reasonable goals
    • Set reasonable time frames for those goals
    • Create a plan to reach those goals
    • Follow your plan
    • Adjust when needed
    • Small steps add up to BIG gains over time
    • Compete with yourself

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    DaMaster gives really good advice. I want to add I was NOT saying powerlifting was bad, and I should have made that clear. The really well trained powerlifters use percents starting 10-12 weeks out. They build up to a max gradually over that time and peak for a contest. The typical gym rat who wants to lift big numbers maxes out every 2 week or so.... that was me. No decent PL'er would ever advise training like that.

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    Im 44 years old and ive been lifting heavy most of my life...I still do, and i max out to track my progress atleast once every 90 days...Ive never had a injury or any joint problems...If you train properly with correct form eat right sleep right and are making gains injuries are not a problem...I hear way to many people say training heavy causes injury and its simply not true...Its all the other factors i mentioned that when not done properly that cause injuries 99% of the time...I also hear way to many people say dont lift like a powerlifter lift like a bodybuilder, thats more illogical advice...First off heavy is relevant to the lifter...You lift whats heavy for you not the weight a 290 lb powerlifter or bodybuilder uses...Second off Most pro bodybuilders lift very heavy weights like a powerlifter, its the form thats different...Heavyweight will only benefit your body and growth as long as you are using correct and good form.

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    yes booby but the guy is 16 so for him he should be now in the phase where he is focusing on proper technique and avoid any critical injury. with heavy weights should come some maturity in lifting and some responsibility towards your body and learn how to listen to your body, and you are probably an expert on that.

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    Yeah, I always make sure to feel a burn in my muscles, the second I feel my joints weakening I stop. I used to have knee problems from rugby and boxing but weigh training is fixing them and making them better because I don't train like a retard who goes heavy every weak

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDevil View Post
    Focus on how you look, more then how much you can lift. In the end, its not about how much you can bench press, its all about how much you look like you can bench press . I saw a guy the other day that benched 505 lbs for a single. He was a sloppy looking total fat fuck. Not impressed.
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    I always laugh when I see this stated, because it is never stated by anyone who actually does look like they can lift a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenolin View Post
    BB.
    I always laugh when I see this stated, because it is never stated by anyone who actually does look like they can lift a lot.
    True.

    Different people have different goals. I don't know why some people don't understand this or respect that.
    There are many different sports and not everyone wants to look like a bodybuilder.

    And personally I don't care what someone looks like they can lift, I care about what they can lift

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    When I started training I was 100% a number whore. Always maxing out week in & week out. After about 3 years of heavy poundages, I racked up some impressive numbers and a bunch of joint problems. Not worth it imo... But we all go through that phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.G View Post
    ^^^your lifts are very good but my advice is not to be carried away in the gym and forget about maxing at your age and especially maxing with deadlifts and squats, you don't want to screw up your vertebrates and cartilage. you should focus on bodybuilding and not on power lifting because power lifting will lead to injuries that can sometimes be very crucial for someone your age.
    I agree about not focusing on max lifting too often at his age. Powerlifting at 16 is just fine. It will not lead to injury if you are training properly. I was already competing as a powerlifter at 16. I rarely performed max lifts other than at meets. Injuries come from training with improper form, not from the occasional max lift, even as a teen.

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