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    I'm a huge fan of state government. No thats not true really i like anything that moves us away from federal rule.
    And I just can't latch on the the conversative Christian logic for not allowing gay marriage. So without a great degree of excitement or interest I don't object.

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    I don't think a reason would be good enough personally. This day an age has started to label those with firm beliefs as close minded and rigid people. It no longer matters what the opposing side thinks. They're going as far as to pick apart the presidential oath for bits they don't like. So for me this is just the next thing that will be band wagoned by those lookin for votes and attention. Not to say its not a valid issue to discuss. Jus my .02.

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    There have been "unions" of couples throughout history but, the formal institution of marriage was created by the Catholic church. For that reason I think the government should butt the Hell out and let the church decided who they will or won't marry. I find it quite ironic that the people who are clamoring for the government to force churches to perform gay marriages are the same ones who scream the loudest for the seperation of church and state.

    All that being said, I don't see any reason at all that gay couples shouldn't get the same benefits as any other married couple. I fully support government recogognized civil unions or whatever you want to call them. If the states want to allow it, fine by me. Go to the court house and git 'er done. By the same token, if a particular church wants to allow it, more power to them. But I firmly belive the government has no business dictating what ceremonies churches MUST perform. No way, no how.
    Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

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    Ok what about this hypothetical scenario, two boys have a sleep over at the boys house who has two dads. "Hey Jimmy, want to see what my Dads Do?" "Sure Tommy what do they do for fun?" Like are kids with two of the same sex parents going to grow up thinking all this shit is natural?

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    Ok well what about this scenario. Kids look to their parents and want to be like their parents. What happens when Jimmy Invites Tommy over for a sleep over and Jimmy has two dads. Observes his Dads doing all kinds of shit and offers up to Tommy some suggestions for fun, "Tommy want to have fun like my dads do?" "Sure Jimmy what do they like to do?" Like are boys with same sex parents going to grow up thinking being gay and swallowing ungodly amounts of seminal fluid is the way to life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
    There have been "unions" of couples throughout history but, the formal institution of marriage was created by the Catholic church. For that reason I think the government should butt the Hell out and let the church decided who they will or won't marry. I find it quite ironic that the people who are clamoring for the government to force churches to perform gay marriages are the same ones who scream the loudest for the seperation of church and state.

    All that being said, I don't see any reason at all that gay couples shouldn't get the same benefits as any other married couple. I fully support government recogognized civil unions or whatever you want to call them. If the states want to allow it, fine by me. Go to the court house and git 'er done. By the same token, if a particular church wants to allow it, more power to them. But I firmly belive the government has no business dictating what ceremonies churches MUST perform. No way, no how.
    Nobody is trying to force churches to perform them, although a few sects would if they were legal.

    You realize ministers aren't the only I Ed who can perform a marriage ceremony right? A judge, captain if a ship and mayor of a city all have legal authority to officiate a wedding.

    Should atheist not be allowed to be married since its a religious institution according to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuclaner View Post
    Ok well what about this scenario. Kids look to their parents and want to be like their parents. What happens when Jimmy Invites Tommy over for a sleep over and Jimmy has two dads. Observes his Dads doing all kinds of shit and offers up to Tommy some suggestions for fun, "Tommy want to have fun like my dads do?" "Sure Jimmy what do they like to do?" Like are boys with same sex parents going to grow up thinking being gay and swallowing ungodly amounts of seminal fluid is the way to life?
    Seriously? Are you attracted to both men and women? No matter what my influence is, only women make my pecker hard.

    Nothing wrong with being bisexual though, just surprised you admitted to it.

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    Um.. I'm not really sure if you misread what I said but Where the fuck did I say I'm Bisexual haha. I was just offering up a hypothetical scenario to think about which will potentially occur more and more as more same sex couples continue to adopt kids or whatever. Like if a boy has two fathers, will he think its in his nature to marry a guy? Just a question I think haha and yes I enjoy the company of a nice moist vaginal canal in my presence as well so woohoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuclaner View Post
    Um.. I'm not really sure if you misread what I said but Where the fuck did I say I'm Bisexual haha. I was just offering up a hypothetical scenario to think about which will potentially occur more and more as more same sex couples continue to adopt kids or whatever. Like if a boy has two fathers, will he think its in his nature to marry a guy? Just a question I think haha and yes I enjoy the company of a nice moist vaginal canal in my presence as well so woohoo.
    My point is you are attracted to what you are attracted too. No amount of influence will change that. It's an idiotic hypothetical question.

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    Where you got I was a bi-sexual was idiotic and maybe the way I decided to word it was as well idiotic. I see what your saying that its natural and kids can't help it but you don't think seeing your two fathers kiss would atleast slightly give you, a young boy, some influence to kiss other boys? I'm not against gay marriage just to throw that in here so I don't have stones thrown at me here, but just observing your two fathers at such a young and crucial age for development, you don't think there's a slight chance of impact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyle21 View Post
    My point is you are attracted to what you are attracted too. No amount of influence will change that. It's an idiotic hypothetical question.
    I know, right? It's not like kids that grow up with an abusive parent tend to be abusive parents themselves, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuclaner View Post
    Where you got I was a bi-sexual was idiotic and maybe the way I decided to word it was as well idiotic. I see what your saying that its natural and kids can't help it but you don't think seeing your two fathers kiss would atleast slightly give you, a young boy, some influence to kiss other boys? I'm not against gay marriage just to throw that in here so I don't have stones thrown at me here, but just observing your two fathers at such a young and crucial age for development, you don't think there's a slight chance of impact?
    No, why would seeing to fathers kiss cause a young boy to be gay? Can you tell me when you made the choice to be straight?

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