Yeah, this stuff has been around a few years. Feel sorry for all the poor bastards that tried it right from the get go. It has been available on the net for a little. I think they stopped all experiments in 2006 because they found cancer in the rats(but didn't tell the public, probably figured no one would use it. Silly chemical company) it then resurfaced on the net with the promise of cardiovascular and fat burning effects(along with a few other things). Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, I read about this a while ago so I might have missed some.