Im just about to finish Deca/Anadrol .. I know its a weird combo but it worked for what I wanted: to put on some water weight. Im lookin pretty good, people are commenting male and female.. but im actually a little weaker im guessing due to loss of androgens, im irritable when the anadrol is in my system which im guessing is because of its estrogenic effects.. My stamina is up a little bit from the Deca and my appetite went from literally almost nothing to hungry 24/7 which was an important goal of mine. I was having some health problems in the past and then I got food poisoning AND i was doing boxing so I lost about 20 lbs. The Deca/Anadrol got my appetite and size back, and im feeling healthy again. Now time to move on to phase 2.
i'm about to get on tren to harden those gains and get some strength. I have some test, anavar, winstrol, and dbol. I want to use 1 oral with the tren, and then with1 for cutting with the test.. and then the 3rd oral I want to use after the test as I wait for the cyp ester to leave my system and begin PCT (since orals have a short half life)
Don't bother telling me you need test as a base at all times, this is simply not true. It's told to beginners because of it's simplicity. Sex drive is not important to me and i've never had a problem with it on Tren. I also don't like mixing test and tren because it makes your blood pressure skyrocket. I want to do 1 at a time, 1 oral with each. So which oral would you reccomend with tren for strength, and which one would your reccomend with the test after for cutting?. And which would be best solo at the end to kind of taper off before PCT?
Looking forward to posting before and after pics, ive seen pretty dramatic results already. So, to simplify, these are the materials:
10ml Test Cyp
what would you use with the tren, what would you use with test, and what is best solo at the end?
You should be running test throughout! Test is always a base! You shouldn't be running deca or tren by themselves. Man I hope I am just misunderstanding your post or you need to do some massive reading and research!
my only choices to stack with the tren are dbol, winny, and anavar.. ive never used winny and anavar before so i'm not sure what to expect. My goal is to lift as heavy as possible. Whichever oral I don't use with the tren I will use with test afterwards and the last I will use afterwards as the test cyp leaves and wait to begin PCT.
The Donkey said Dbol, which sounds like the most reasonable answer. I appreciate it!
So for after that would you guys do Winny with test for cutting, or anavar with test? then the remaining will be used solo just basically as hormone replacement till PCT time.
ok thanks bro. will do. everyone seems to like var they just complain about the price. seems like a rational choice. winny seems to make you brittle and is just for cosmetics so i'll save it for shits and giggles at the end.
3 weeks into tren e sustanon and dbol cycle and strength is way up! I'd go with dbol so once you finish this cycle any water weight from dbol will be gone. Why would you NOT use test since you'll be shutdown from tren and you already have it?
I'd say you should buy what you need to cycle properly. This mix and match shit with the minimal amount of gear you have seems silly.
I chose to order these things. My goal is to first bulk, then get stronger, then cut, in that order, in seperate phases so I can see how I respond to different things first hand. After using GH my body works differently than it used to. I also am using this as an opportunity to try 3 things i haven't used before: Winstrol, Anavar And Anadrol. Once I have used them all i'll have a broader first-hand knowledge of all the compounds available, and my next cycle will be my favorites for a longer period. I have small amounts of each, but added together it is a decent amount. Thanks for the advice though
If you are after some serious mass then oxys or dbol (perhaps a mix of both) is your best bet.
Tren is a great mass builder provided there's a high estrogen environment.
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whatever your motive im cool with , i got no flys on me and ill throw my dukes up anywhere, shit i been in flip flops over highside in a shower fighting off attackers, Dannie can roll with the punches, hahaha its all good big dawg Dannie
I know you said you don't want to mix the 2, but I love low dose test, moderate tren, and oral winstrol for cutting. I like a little test in everything I run and the tren and winnie will give you that hard, dry, grainy look if your diet, cardio, and bodyfat are all on point. Most orals raise your blood pressure regaurdless, so I don't see the big deal adding 200 - 300 mgs of test in there. But to each his own. Tren and winnie are a great cutting combo. Just make sure your lean to really see effects