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Pro-Hormones! I Think I Really Messed Up! Please Help Me!

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[UPDATE] ? AND I NEED YOUR HELP!

Ok. So I took Super DMZ 2.0 with LMG. Man do I feel messedup at the moment. I do not know what is going on with myself. I have hadseveral problems and I am not sure what it is. I will list a few to see whatyou guys think.

1. After a few weeks off I hit the GYM a little bitand had almost whole body muscle cramps that were severe I mean to the pointwhere I had to take an ICE bath; muscle relaxer bath; put soothing lotion on mymuscles; and take Tylenol or Ibuprofen.
2. Joints and arms hurt; mainly in my wrist andelbows but sometimes in my back. I think mainly in my wrist and elbows becauseof my video game addiction problem in the past but just seems to have gottenworse; and from my back from starting to play golf a lot; I have been swinginghard and often.
3. I think I do have a form of IBS though that isalways at bay; hasn?t acted up in a while but thought I would just note that.
4. One thing I did want to mention is that I thinkI severely over trained. I do remember being on SDZ and my arms feeling likethey were going to explode. I work out some of my body way to hard and did notspread works out around to different muscle groups like I should of. I latterlyhad to stop working out my arms because I could barely move them they felt sothick.
5. I have been taking pro-hormones off and on foryears since like 25. I am wondering if I did any major damage to myself? I donot notice anything major; just the fact that for example my color bone hurtsalways when I do dips. Like my bones are not strong enough to hold my upperbody. I did have a bird chest growing up for the longest time and even my dadmade fun of me. That is why I worked out so hard for so long. I wasnaturally around 135 lbs. and now I can?t get under 185 lbs. I am justwondering if I am bigger than my bones can support; and if I am how do I fixthis because I think I am all muscle and can?t lose the weight?
6. Even joints in my hands; fingers; and right toeand foot seem to easily hurt. I thought I might have some kind of rudimentaryarthritis but I told the Doctor what I thought I had and when he did blood workhe said that they didn?t find anything.
7. When I had it bad the muscle jerks at night Ihad heat flashes and sometimes sweating but I do not have any of that now; theonly thing I have now is muscle twitching at night if it happens. I reallyfeel like I damaged some nerves somewhere and they need some time to heal. Myquestion is how long does it take or do nerves even heal if you haveovertrained for like a couple of years?
8. [MAIN PROBLEM] Sleeping. This goes off and on itis so weird. I get these weird muscle twitches like jerks that only happen whenI?m trying to go to sleep. It will come and go; like one time it lasted fora week and I went to the Doctor and had blood work done and he said everythingwas fine; and it finally went a way for a while. Then like a month later orsooner it will pop in and hit me again and mess up my whole sleep schedule and Ican?t sleep at all. Then after a few days it goes away. I do not think I properPCT at all for this cycle and I am afraid that I messed something up. There wasone time however that it was acting up and I started talking Revolution PCT andit fixed it. Then just last night I took Revolution PCT; Pure TEST; CycleAssists and 300 MG of Magnesium; and it happened again. I also worked out verymildly a couple hours before bed and half a beer only early that day. I haven?tbeen drinking at all. When I wake up I feel great; walk around no problem; goto school; nothing noticeable. My elbows feel a little wore out and so do mywrists; but that?s it.

Guys I could really use your help. I have really bad healthinsurance. I can go to the Doctor up to 5 times per year and only up to 500dollars per visit. I already used two for my foot and one for the blood test. Ido not know what to do? I have never had this sleeping problem before whentaking pro hormones. I do not know if it is Super DMZ or just finally all thesepro hormones finally caught up to me. Is this healable or has anyone else hadthis problem?

*I did take some OxyElite the DMAA version for a while anddid not like that. Maybe a couple of weeks.

Here is what I am taking off and on trying to figure out theright dose to give me sleep:

Finaflex PureTest
Finaflex Revolution PCT
Tribulus Raw Power
Competitive Edge Labs Cycle Assist
Natural Vitality Natural Calm [Been taking this every night]

Sometimes I take at random times:

Osteo Bi-Flex [I think this one could be a problem]
GNC Maximum Greens
Flintstone Vitamins
Equate One Daily Men?s
Equate Calcium 500+D
Echinacea
Vitamin C 1000MG

Thinking about taking to see if it helps:

Phenibut
Lift Mode 5HTP

I know that some of you guys are going to say that you areon too much stuff. Well sometimes I come completely off of everything for likea couple of months and eventually the sleep muscle twitches come back. The onlyother thing I can think of is that I have very low testosterone at the moment.Last time I had trouble sleeping I took Revolution PCT and Magnesium and Isleep like a baby for a long time.

The only other trigger could be

Gold Standard Whey and the amino acids in it. I had a smallprotein shake before I went to bed a few hours earlier and had a huge dinner. Owait that might have a problem as well. I had dinner at like 9:00 PM and wentto be at 10. But how could that cause muscle twitching.

Also my dad says he only need about 5-6 hours of sleep. Icould be over sleeping. I try to get 9 to 12.

Also I think I might have some anxiety because I am use tomaking six figures and working 12 hours a day. I did that for 10 years of mylife. Now I am a poor college student which my wife takes care of me. I wonderif this could be psychology as well.

There was a time when I had Amino Acids 2222 and Goldstandard Whey Protein that was expired and the lid was not sealed tight. I hadthey for a little while; wonder if my body had toxic amino acids for a whileand now reacts to them?

Well I slept great for the past few weeks. The only thing Idid different was work out a little late by very easily; not hard. Eat a latedinner. Had a half of a beer; and maybe mix cycle assist with Revolution PCTand pure test before I went to bed. And had a small protein shake beforedinner.

Also do you think I could have over trained because my bodyjust feels like it needs a lot of rest? I worked out tri-ceps like a week and ahalf ago mildly and they still hurt today; pretty bad. I think I need a longbreak. And if I do need a long break how do I work out so I don?t loseeverything even though I am injured. I just feel like a lot of my muscle areinjured.

Summary Questions:

1. I know this is a lot. I was just hoping someonecould shed some light on all of this.
2. Please advise me on what to do or if there isanything I can do.
3. Also I do not have very good insurance prettymuch if any so I am relying on you guys.
4. Please help me.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this. I hopeyou have a wonderful day. Please help!

Best,
Needspractice
 
DMZ is one of my favorite products. I really enjoy it throughly . Make sure you record calories and nutritional guide. I'm not sure it
would be the best supp on the market or not. I hope you have better luck with your next run. Wish you the best.
 
2nd forum you've posted this on huh? Either a super troll or an idiot
 
I think you should stop all the bullshit your on and tell the dr about the muscle twitching. it could be just a simple nerve problem that will go away. if u took dmz I doubt that had anything to do with it. my advice is don't touch nothing for 3 weeks then see wat happens, if it continues go see a dr. but I highly suggest you get it taken care of.
 
id listeen to unclem great guy been workin with him a while now. on PH i had same problem withthe cramps. the mofo cramps that pull you out of bed. more potassium and taurine and 2 gallons of water a day will help with alot of your problems alot of people cant even get one gallon in even though they think they get more. seems like your joints are drying out specially if you didnt do your right pct. also listen to the guys on the other forum asf is where you posted it at. about the sleep wronggggg 8hr and up is what you need to be getting if you want to grow. id like to also know your diet but seems like you need to get lab work done and get checked out you may have done too much damage to yourself. it took me min of a year to recover when i was an idiot jumping from ph to ph not taking enough time off vs time on.
 
@MuscleGauge1

Thanks for being kind! I think I am going to take a breakfor a while!

@jamesm11

I am an idiot

@unclem

That is an excellent point! I was wanting to know if DMZwould have an effect on that or not. Thanks for your help!

@Little BamBam

I definitely had really bad cramps recently but they finallywent away. Yes I have been sucking on water and that seems to have beenhelping. I twitched a little last night maybe 2 or 3 times but slept like ababy. I do agree that my joints are dried up for sure. I wonder how I can fixthis fast like???

When you say to much damage you think it?s permanent or moretemporary; just need rest and to give my body time to heal?

See this is the shit that I am talking about someone thatcan help me or has been through the same things as me. This is all that I wantedto know. Just a little help and encouragement. I do not know why everyone isblowing me up on forms. So I am a dumbass; let?s get over it; how can you helpme? thanks man I appreciate it.
 
UPDATE:

Ok I might have found something. Last night my head wasraised and I was not flat on my back. When I got flat on my back the spasmswent away. Right now I just got home from hitting some golf balls real hard andmy middle back start to hurt I think from straining. I went to start taking anap and of course I felt some spasms. I had a pillow under my head and waslifted up. When I took the pillow away and lay flat they subsided I believe.

I wonder if I have injured a nerve or have a pinched nerveor something. I do not have major pain when normal walking or hanging around;but if I hit a couple of large buckets of golf balls pretty hard I have somemajor pain in my rear center back.

I wonder since my joints have been all sucked up and dry andI did not do a proper PCT I am feeling all sore and weak.
 
listen dude, whether the dmz or all the crap you are taking are causing your symptoms or not i cannot tell you, but what i can tell you is that if they did not hurt you so far they eventually will so better to stop all the crap you are taking and stick with a healthy diet and a good workout program. you can still take only vitamins and some magnesium (only the recommended dose). stick to what iam telling you for 2-3 months and see that you will start feeling better.
 
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The twitching while falling asleep is probably a hypnic jerk and perfectly normal during the transition to sleep.

The cramping is pretty normal from cycles too drink 1.5-2 gallons of water and add in taurine and maybe potassium.

Aches and pains can happen in tendons during cycle from your muscles getting stronger faster than the tendons can keep up.

Joints can be sore from low estrogen which when your natural test is shut down there is no source for estrogen because there is no test to aromatase.

Always make sure to do a proper pct nolva or clomid.

The back pains sound like it could be back pumps caused by extra red blood cells on cycle, taurine can help with that too.

It sounds like you needed to do more research before cycling.
 
You need more practice
 
Still waiting to hear back from you about this. I really don't think it has anything to do with the supps at all. I think it's something else. You should get checked out by a doctor and see what is really going on. I think seeking a professionals opinion is in your best interest.
 
@Dr.G

Agreed. Thank You Very Much!

@lefkick

Agreed. I am an idiot.

@ctr10

Agreed.

@muscleGauge1

I did go to a Doctor with this very issue and he did bloodwork and said I was completely fine. Chalked it up to stress and anxiety; Itold him everything gave him a laundry list and he is a good Doctor; I trusthim. I thought he thought I was paranoid for sure.

@Mrphotography

I do not think it is that bad.
 




[UPDATE]

I just had a great night sleep again; no problems. I used nopillow and put muscle relaxer cream on my back. The only thing I took was NaturalCalm Magnesium Supplement before bed. I really feel it has something to do witha sore back; nothing major just need rest. I hope this is the case but I couldbe wrong.

Also here are my labs.
 
you went to the doctor : excellent step, but the point is did you tell your doc all the stuff you are ingesting???? i mean all of it? and if you did what was his reaction?
 
Hey bro,
any progress so far with the supps? How is it coming? Did you find any answers to your problems? I'm sorry to hear about your problems. I hope that your issues get worked out. I really think you should go to a doctor.
 
[UPDATE]

I got another great night sleep! Not sure why but somethingis working! YEA!
 
IML Gear Cream!
The product works great, not flaming. I was a bit over zealous with it and Deca and have now been diagnosed with cardiomyopathy.
 
Just do test problem solved.On a serious note just quit everything but vitamins and run clomid
 
Run test and clomid together? I have been off of DMZ for a month and have done a crappy oct pct. Is it to late for me to run clomid? Will that stop my twitching and let me sleep? Does lack of test make your muscles go crazy when you drop off? I am not getting morning wood like I use to but I can still bang my wife hard.
 
The test was a joke.Run clomid for 5 weeks @50mg ed never to late to recover
 
I like everyone's answers and will +1 on more water, water, water, potassium and taurine and some electro lights if really drinking the water
 
Clomid for 5 weeks should do you some good. Make sure you run it at 50mgs that's the key to this all. Make sure you also stay clean for a while and keep off the sauce for a few weeks too to let your body recoup that's important to remember. Creatine and BCAAs are fine though and a multi v is good too.
 
let me ask you this. my test came in around 300 when my endocrinologist then gave me script for test. I have not run bloods since. I once had a friend that one time was messing around with a girl and he said that he couldn't even get it up. he freaked out. I think his test must of been zero or something. My question is I can still please my wife. I am not having morning wood but its working. so you think I am still around 300 or below that? And what level do you have to be at where your slogan doesn't even work?
 
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