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    Drawing from two vials

    Ok, so I plan on loading both test cyp and tren-e into a 27 gauge slin pin. What is the best way to go about this?

    Do I need to inject air into vial 1, remove the pin, inject air into vial 2 and draw, and finally reinsert into vial 1 and draw.

    Seems like the only way to do this while using only one pin. The needle would have to go through 3 rubber stoppers before I inject. Maybe there's a better way? What do you guys do?

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    Inject air into vial 1, then draw. Pull air into the pin and inject (inverted- with the air on top of the oil) into vial 2 then draw. Thus saving 1 pass through rubber.


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    why not just use a draw needle? with 20g stick backload the slin pin...

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    You answered your own question that would be my 2 cents worth that get dull pretty quick that results in pain and bruising so backload the slin pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaMaster View Post
    Inject air into vial 1, then draw. Pull air into the pin and inject (inverted- with the air on top of the oil) into vial 2 then draw. Thus saving 1 pass through rubber.
    this^^^ why ot use 25g it would help drawing the liquid not much but 27 is very small. or fill air and draw into syringe with 20-22g and swithc to 27g when syringe is full

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    I draw all my gear with an 18 and pin with 25, works good, I might get some slin pins, the ones I have for my peps you can't take the needle off.
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    Thanks guys. I appreciate the advice.

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    i use a 22 gauge 3cc syringe to extract than pull the plunger from the slin pin and use the 3cc syringe you have to pre fill it to w.e amount you need most don't exceed 1cc in slin pin than turn it upwards push the air out and boom pin easy and the needle hasn't been used once so nice and painless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay_steel View Post
    why not just use a draw needle? with 20g stick backload the slin pin...
    ^^ what he said

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    slin as in 29 Gauge? Why?

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    Ahh, never mind. To each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DetMuscle View Post
    slin as in 29 Gauge? Why?
    Right now I'm just testing out some new tren-e. I'll start my actual 8 week cycle next month. Even then the quantities will be fairly mild. I'm thinking I'll inject 100mg test-c and 100mg tren-e (total 1ml) Mon, Wed, Fri. A 27 gauge 1/2 inch 1cc should work well for this. So the cycle will be 300 test and 300 tren for eight weeks. Maybe a week or two of low dose dbol to start.

    I've done a lot of oral cycles while I was on transdermal test. Doc just switched me over to test cyp. This will be my first cycle with oils so I'm just easing into it.

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    IMO 1/2 inch just doesn't go deep enough..especially if your pinning glutes. 1/2 slins are intended for sub-Q injections not IM. A good portion of the gear may not make to your blood stream. And you certainly dont need to pin cyp and tren e 3x week.

    Get some real pins..say 25g at least 1 inch..and some 18 or 20g drawing pins...and pin 1.5 ml 2x week.
    Last edited by moodyman1; 10-11-2013 at 06:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damaster View Post
    inject air into vial 1, then draw. Pull air into the pin and inject (inverted- with the air on top of the oil) into vial 2 then draw. Thus saving 1 pass through rubber.
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    You could always go with a 20g 1-1/2" to inject. Though as I have concluded this is no longer an injection but rather a stab wound (but it got the job done). For daily injections I think the 25g at 1" is great. Maybe I'm just lazy but I just use the same draw pin to inject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moodyman1 View Post
    IMO 1/2 inch just doesn't go deep enough..especially if your pinning glutes. 1/2 slins are intended for sub-Q injections not IM. A good portion of the gear may not make to your blood stream. And you certainly dont need to pin cyp and tren e 3x week.

    Get some real pins..say 25g at least 1 inch..and some 18 or 20g drawing pins...and pin 1.5 ml 2x week.
    THIS! 1/2" is too short for a deep IM injection. And 27g would take a good 5 minutes to push the oil through....even if you warm it up. I draw with 18 or 20g, and shoot with 23 or 25 (pending where I shoot) 1 or 1.5".

    Bottom line 27g 1/2" is not for oil and not for IM injections. When pushing oil through a 27g pin, the pin stays in your body much longer than if you were to use a 23. Keeping a pin inside you for longer periods of time will end up resulting in more scar tissue because when you put all the pressure on the syringe for so long, the pin moves around inside your muscle....causing more scar tissue as apposed to a 23g where you go in and out real quick.



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    Skin pins are good if your very lean. If you are scared of needles which is generally the case for noobs using them, the pain of a shallow injection is worse then a deep I'm injection. The deeper you go the less nerves so less pain. Man up and use a 25 5/8" at least.

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    I used slin pins every day for a 16wk prep. Quads, delts, ventro-glute, pecs, calves, lats. Never an issue.

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