I guess this isn't the typical lab that you will find in here, but it is labwork from a sample of BigD's Testosterone Propionate. Very clear and clean oil void of oxidation. The amount of hormone is exactly right and the purity of the raw material used is among the best. Anyone that buys Chinese raws and believe them when they are told that the purity is 99%, is being manipulated. There is no 99% raw material available. 50-70% purity is average for what we see on most UGL, 70-80% is good, 80-90% is great, and anything above that is among the elite. I have seen 97% purity once on a tren A product, and 96% twice (once on a test e and once on a tren A) but that was it among the thousands that I have run. The Mass spec is the only true way to know what you are putting in your body. If anyone has any questions please I feel free to contact me, there is a summary page at the end for those that don't quite understand what the charts are telling you.
As a rep of Big D's and giving him the benefit of the doubt, I PM'd him about the recent accusations, in which multiple people publically called him out for supposedly having fake mass spec reports. It has been 2 weeks since I contacted him about these accusations, in order to get an explanation from him and see if there was some way to refute them. I have recieved ZERO response. I also contacted him about the 1,000's of bloodowork results he said he has, so I could post some of them publically to help bring more awarenes to his company. I have recived zero response.
I did exactly what I as hired to do and handled the situation well, but as soon as these accusations came forward he ignored them completely and stopped responding to me altogether. Why? The way he has handled these accusations and his rep, quite frankly, does not look good. What did he expect from me? To sell-out and throw away my integrity by autmatocally denying the accusations without a shred of evidence? If everything is 100% legit, why not addres the accusations and prove the tests are legit? At the minimum, since he has publically said he has 1,000's of blood test results, why not piblically post them (names mitted), so we can see?
A simple response would have been fine, but to handle the situation like this? To me, such a response...or should I say a complete lack of one, only lends credibility to the accuations. the truth always come sout...and the truth, in most cases, can be proven. If I made big claims which were 100% true, I sure as hell wouldn't leave things like that. I would do my best to show others, especially as a new sponsor, that what I said was the truth.
So basically we should just trust you because you say your honest correct ?? You do realize how that sounds dont you ??? I am a Big D user since day 1 which is couple years now and happen to think his gear is some of the best Ive done personally. But what you have said is pretty funny . Anybody who is doing testing for a sperate company other then a company they own or represent should be done by an outside source with a reputation that is known and respected by all . I feel you are insulting my intelligence everytime you post these . I dont know you and you just say " Trust me " . This is not an attack so hope you dont take it like that BUT Im not the only 1 who keeps thinking the same . Everytime you post its like Who is this guy and who does he work for or what company does he represent that I can believe in him ...Wouldnt you think the same if you were sitting here in our position ?? I hope you wouldnt just trust some random dude that just shows up 1 day and says trust me Im golden
I wrote that over at ASF in responce to a thread where Bigangus says " just trust me " " My word is gold "
I happen to be a Big D supporter but these these types of statements are just not crebible to me
I wouldnt give anything less than 95% pure to my dog. That isnt fit for human consumption and yes there is better. This is nothing to brag about and most of the spec I saw posted was worse.
As far as the thousand in bloodwork that is laughable. Even if three guys got bloodwork every single day it would take a year to get not even 1000 and nevermind the COST.
And by the way, as Murph mentioned WHO IS THIS GUY? He says he tests everyone and the duplicate spec report for another lab found online (duplicate down to the font) is because he is the king of testing and tests for everyone everywhere? Right. Who has heard of him before this? For real? Anyone?
It is not too hard to get some vets to run bloodwork when you show up on a board. We all know what new sources do to establish themselves and announcing "trust me" is not how its done.
I was just contacted by Big D...he has no idea what has been going on...still doesn't...hasn't even seen the UGL thread in the main forum yet. At this point, I do not think he has been ignoring anyone, so that is good. I expect he will address the matter shortly.
I just heard from D today so he isn't totally MIA. I honestly don't give a shit about mass spec testing and who says how good the gear is. To me the proof is in the pudding. I have been using D's gear for quite a while now. My labs come back as expected and my body responds well. How can anyone trust anyone on a forum?....honestly. I will continue to use D's gear until he gives me a reason to look for another source. I am sure there are many other sources around that are as good or better then D. Its all about trusting YOUR source and YOU being happy with the gear.
Originally Posted by heavyiron
Estrogen is from Satan. Testosterone is a gift from baby Jesus.