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    Should I take testosterone cypionate






    Hello all. I was diagnosed with low t almost a year ago. My total free test was 162. I've been on androgel 1.62 for about 9 months now. My libido is good so is my energy. But since i'm on this trt I've been thinking of taking advantage of this to make some gains. My total free test is now 485 I weightlift do hit cardio and eat healthy. I told my doctor that I'd like my test to be higher that I have done a little bit of research and that my test should be higher for my age ( im 34) but my doctor says that my test is fine where is at that I should stick with the 2 pumps a day. I'd like my test to be above 800 so I can make some gains. So I told him that my libido is low and so is my energy. So I have An appointment tomorrow with the endo. I hear that TC can get your testosterone allot higher and that it's more stable as far as keeping your test levels high troughout the day. I also like that fact that it would only be one shot a week instead of the 2 pumps every day, also not have to worry about not having to wear a shirt all the time in worries of my wife or kids coming on contact with the med. My question is.. should I listen to the doc or should I go ahead and change to TC. That is I'd the endo lets me. My only concern is the testicular shrinkage for as far as serious side effects that I know of. Is there more that I should know? Am I better of with androgel? Thanks for any advise

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    Andro gel is junk.. however if your going to an endo, do everything that your endo tells you and prescribes.. With a dose of trt at say 200mgs e6d from him ( if you get the golden ticket ) is enough to reached a respectable dose in your blood plasma.. Do not do any AAS and consult with your specialist, and follow his protocol, blood work and labs... If you fail to get get TRT, come back to this thread and update us here and Im sure some of the members here can assist and other options that are avail..

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    Personal preference. I prefer injections. Stronger and easier, in my opinion. 1-2 shots a week instead of putting lotion on a couple times a day. Free test and total test are a bit different I believe..
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    Go with the injectable route, way better all around. Just press the doctor about the meds( safety of wife and child being concerned with gel, one time inject instead of everyday application, tell him you are a little up and down with the gel, etc).

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    Most endos will not give you a sufficient dose. In fact Im shocked at what a lot of them say as it leaves the patient see-sawing up and down . You are basically doing whats called "cruising " right now, go ahead and do a couple of blasts !! Start off with a nice blast of 500mg a week of testC or E for 12 weeks, you'll love it.
    You will need to add in a little estro control with that though.

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    See what the endo had to say. hopefully he is the type of Dr that takes quality of life into consideration and n ot strictly by the numbers. If he is here is a good chance he will prescribe you injections. Also you can use the friend example. ie: My friend was using the gel and he felt the same way I do and his Dr switched him to test c and he is doing much better. Is that an option for me? Its allways better to go a route like that than to tell the DR you think you should be on injetions. They dont like patients telling them what they should prescribe. Anyway it sounds like you know what to say. Best of luck and hopefully the endo prescribes you the test.

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    Update:
    So I went to the endo. She wants to start me at 150 ml every two Weeks. Yeah, disapointed. I told her that I have done research about the half life, that every week would be better but she disagreed. Idk she seems inexperienced even though she's like in her late 40's. You would assume she's the opposite. I think the problem is that she's old school. I also asked her if she could prescribe some anti-estrogen that since I'm changing Medicine and trying something new that there's a chance that my test could go even lower or too high but would not go for it. Honestly I'm worry of what the outcome is going to be. I really don't want to be I'm some emotional roller coaster.. I feel like just telling her to just keep me with the current dose of androgel I'm taking right that my regular doctor prescribed me. I mean i feel fine my libido is good and I'm doing some slow okay gains. she wants to keep me on that dose for two months then go for some lab work and go from there. what do y'all think?

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    Find a new Dr.
    Remember, they work for you, not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxGetLeanxX View Post
    Find a new Dr.
    Remember, they work for you, not the other way around.
    Getlean is right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWeights4life View Post
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    So I went to the endo. She wants to start me at 150 ml every two Weeks. Yeah, disapointed. I told her that I have done research about the half life, that every week would be better but she disagreed. Idk she seems inexperienced even though she's like in her late 40's. You would assume she's the opposite. I think the problem is that she's old school. I also asked her if she could prescribe some anti-estrogen that since I'm changing Medicine and trying something new that there's a chance that my test could go even lower or too high but would not go for it. Honestly I'm worry of what the outcome is going to be. I really don't want to be I'm some emotional roller coaster.. I feel like just telling her to just keep me with the current dose of androgel I'm taking right that my regular doctor prescribed me. I mean i feel fine my libido is good and I'm doing some slow okay gains. she wants to keep me on that dose for two months then go for some lab work and go from there. what do y'all think?
    If your libido is good, then don't stress this.. our doses aren't gonna be what their doses are,no will the effects and results be the same in comparison..I suggest stay the course and get blood work done and follow the protocol that has been provided to you..You will see her again, she review your blood and hear your feedback..see where you are then...Don't go switching Dr yet...give this a chance..Bloods will speak volumes and express where your at,so give this time..I don't agree on her protocol, but I didn't see your chart ( not like Im a Dr any who ),she may have a method here to her old school madness...

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    I've always told everyone that if you seek medical treatment and advice, you should listen to everything your doctor tells you to do. If you disagree with his/her treatment, you have two options. Find another doctor, or learn enough to manage the shit by yourself. This stuff really isn't rocket science. With a little time and to learn how to properly use AAS and read/understand your blood work results. You will be just fine...better than "just" IMHO. There are dozens of guys here that are suitable candidates for TRT treatment. The only reason why I went to a endo here and in Europe is so that I can have a script on me for when I'm traveling with oil and pins....because IMHO, I think I know a little more than my endo when it comes to using different types of AAS for the purpose of body building, not just for the purpose of keeping my free test within range. Most of the vets here know A LOT more than most doctors when it comes to this type of material.

    For example....the OP said he was worried about testicular atrophy. That is a VERY easy problem to fix if you take a little bit of time to learn the ropes. Should the OP decide to up his doses, he should familiarize himself more with AIs ans SERMS. And at the same time, learn how to properly train and eat. When you go to an endo, he isn't going to give you advice as to how to eat properly and how to train. Like I said, I go to an endo every so often just to have a script....and I go when I know my numbers are way too low. Do the shit on your own brother, doctors will not help you put on mass and size like you want, they will however give you what you need so that your test levels are that of a normal male....but that isn't really what we want, right? Learn your shit, read all the stickies and as many of the threads on this board as you can....and in a few weeks time, you will know more than your endo when it comes to body building. These doctors don't go to school to help you learn to use steroids in the fashion that suits us best.

    Study your shit, learn as much as you can, and you will be more than fine. You just have to have the will to take the time to learn the science behind it all. Don't be one of those fools that just wants to pin as much oil as he can just to put on the size and completely ignore diet, training, AIs, SERMS, etc. I would first start in the kitchen and in the gym. Learn on what you should be eating and how you should be training. Than move on to the rest of the stuff. Read every profile for every compound out there, be it an AAS or an AI/SERM, etc. Good luck. Oh, and one last thing....I say this because my best friend is also my primary MD. He trains just the way I do, and uses anabolics all the time. If he has a question or a concern, he'll give me a call up and straight up ask me if I can help. Just think about it, my primary MD (who has been my best friend since high school) is calling ME up for medical advice. He knows his shit, but sometimes he'll give me a ring and ask me my opinion on a stack he's putting together. I just find that funny as hell...and I love busting his balls about it! lol I don't have any kind of MD....just a bro science degree!!! lol





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    I'm considering a few of you guys adivices.. Thank you btw. Any advice and knowledge is appreciated. I was thinking of just sticking with the docs advice and just see where this went but after two days of discontinuing the 2 pumps of androgel a day and receiving a shot of 150 ml of testosterone cypionate. I feel like shit. my arms feel weird/ tired as if I just got done throwing 50 punches really fast. I also lost some reps on my workout. And feel no motivation whatsoever to workout. O though, I have been only getting about 5-6 hours of sleep ( I have a newborn daughter ). I remember some days while still on androgel where I only got about 5-6 hours of sleep I feel a little tired but not like this. I felt great after about an hour from when I got the shot, but then it went down hill after that. I'm thinking about calling her today and see what she thinks. or should I give the medicine more time?
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    Oh, and is there another good site that I can learn from as far as using testosterone cypionate. I'd like to learn everything about them in and outs. I am not interested in any drug that cannot be prescribed by a doctor. There are some good stickys on this site. But not as much info as I'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWeights4life View Post
    I'm considering a few of you guys adivices.. Thank you btw. Any advice and knowledge is appreciated. I was thinking of just sticking with the docs advice and just see where this went but after two days of discontinuing the 2 pumps of androgel a day and receiving a shot of 150 ml of testosterone cypionate. I feel like shit. my arms feel weird/ tired as if I just got done throwing 50 punches really fast. I also lost some reps on my workout. And feel no motivation whatsoever to workout. O though, I have been only getting about 5-6 hours of sleep ( I have a newborn daughter ). I remember some days while still on androgel where I only got about 5-6 hours of sleep I feel a little tired but not like this. I felt great after about an hour from when I got the shot, but then it went down hill after that. I'm thinking about calling her today and see what she thinks. or should I give the medicine more time?
    The last thing - give it more time.

    Testosterone Cypionate is not that fast acting. The Cypionate ester ties it up for a while before releasing it into the bloodstream. This is nothing like the gel that you have been putting in your skin, which was absorbed and available immediately (which you should probably keep doing for about 3 weeks, unless your doctor said not to for some reason).

    I think you have some more reading to do right here before running off to other sites - a lot more reading, in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malfeasance View Post
    The last thing - give it more time.

    Testosterone Cypionate is not that fast acting. The Cypionate ester ties it up for a while before releasing it into the bloodstream. This is nothing like the gel that you have been putting in your skin, which was absorbed and available immediately (which you should probably keep doing for about 3 weeks, unless your doctor said not to for some reason).

    I think you have some more reading to do right here before running off to other sites - a lot more reading, in fact.
    Wow.. That makes sense. she never told to stop taking the gel but also never told me to continue to take it for some Weeks. I just assumed that I did. This shows How much she knows or wants to help... Time for a new doc. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWeights4life View Post
    Oh, and is there another good site that I can learn from as far as using testosterone cypionate. I'd like to learn everything about them in and outs. I am not interested in any drug that cannot be prescribed by a doctor. There are some good stickys on this site. But not as much info as I'd like.
    There are plenty of boards out there that can provide you with the information you are looking for, but I've been around here for almost 6 years and I have visited many many other boards. Any question you might have, has probably all ready been answered here. If you can't find it, throw the question up in a thread and you should get an answer in a few moments time. Besides, some of the smartest and most intelligent guys in the game hang out in these waters.



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    100mg every 5 days (same as 150mg every week) puts me around 500. Nothing amazing, but enough to be able to function sexually and feel just OK. Endos and PC doctors really have no clue. I started on 200mg every 21 days...long story short lots of trial and error and suggestions from me helped get the doctor to go for every 5 day injections, and the dose he wouldn't raise. He said androgens are very powerful and more is not always best....yeah I disagree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorZ06 View Post
    There are plenty of boards out there that can provide you with the information you are
    looking for, but I've been around here for almost 6 years and I have visited many many other boards. Any question you might have, has probably all ready been answered here. If you can't find it, throw the question up in a thread and you should get an answer in a few moments time. Besides, some of the smartest and most intelligent guys in the game hang out in these waters.



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