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i think with everything you start to really change its never going to be 100% back to normal. You mess with T3 you will fuck with your thyroid you mess with slin you will fuck with your pancreas. Its a double edge sword of how big do you want to be at how much risk do you want to take. I personally do not believe the guys dropping right now are due to their gear i think its due to other bad life style decisions. Most of them seems to be heart failure. You walk around at 320 off season your heart is working the shit out of it to pump blood.
But also you have to ask your self is the IGF i am getting legit.. The reason why i say this is because my boy was on REAL IGF back in the 90's spending 1200 plus for it. Then if your going to be doing IGF you should be pumping as much legit GH into your system as possible Sero's, rips, or if you can get them real hyge's. Then that gets pricey with your gear. If your pinning cheap ass yellows or blues then i would get them tested and pin 15iu of gh or pin 6-8 iu of legit gh. I mean if your talking about IGF you want to get huge...
Next question... Your running some pretty advanced stuff... so when are you stepping on stage?
I dont know about IGF but I know with Slin I have been off it for some time and I still go hypo every now and then out of no where. BS doesnt drop as low as it did when i was on slin but its enough to make me run around looking for carbs.
i met a female IFBB pro and she told me i should compete. im not thinking about it now because i am not happy with my physique. i am strong, but not aesthetic.. the GHRP made my waist wider and my torso longer, and my arms are longer.. i look more blocky with long limbs than before when i had the nice V taper and classic bodybuilder look with small waist.. im hoping IGF, which is responsible for puberty, will help me get the size i need on my long arms, and i desperately want my insulin sensitivity low again.. the GHRP made me grow but i have the body of a kid again, i need to mature and from what i read IGF is responsible for that.. i'm strong as fuck but i have a slender child like look with a bunch of mass on it.. i'll compete when i know i look good.. the IFBB pro said i have a good look though, i am very lean and strong.. i just dont think im shaped right to compete. i have high expectations.. i used to have girls telling me i look like a greek god.. now they just call me buff :Xi think with everything you start to really change its never going to be 100% back to normal. You mess with T3 you will fuck with your thyroid you mess with slin you will fuck with your pancreas. Its a double edge sword of how big do you want to be at how much risk do you want to take. I personally do not believe the guys dropping right now are due to their gear i think its due to other bad life style decisions. Most of them seems to be heart failure. You walk around at 320 off season your heart is working the shit out of it to pump blood.
But also you have to ask your self is the IGF i am getting legit.. The reason why i say this is because my boy was on REAL IGF back in the 90's spending 1200 plus for it. Then if your going to be doing IGF you should be pumping as much legit GH into your system as possible Sero's, rips, or if you can get them real hyge's. Then that gets pricey with your gear. If your pinning cheap ass yellows or blues then i would get them tested and pin 15iu of gh or pin 6-8 iu of legit gh. I mean if your talking about IGF you want to get huge...
Next question... Your running some pretty advanced stuff... so when are you stepping on stage?
Everywhere I read, it says that IGF increases insulin sensitivity in muscle. My question is, is this permanent?
i noticed this also.. i had life trheatening insulin resistance caused by GHRP-6.. i kinda fixed it supplementing with magnesium, zinc, b complex, and vitamin c.. but i noticed once i tried insulin i started feeling a lot better even when i wasnt on it. especially at the beginning.. i think giving my pancreas that much needed break meant it was able to release more insulin later on but it really seems to have increased my sensitivity.. maybe the added muscle mass had something to do with it? IGF seems very promising.. it sensitizes muscle cells to insulin which in the long runs lowers blood insulin levels.. but im wondering if this during long term supplementation or if using it for a month or two will help.. im thinking if it adds lean muscle like that it may give me more muscle to make use of that blood sugar.. but im no expert in this field. i just remember before the ghrp-6 i used to go hypo a lot and thats when i felt the healthiest also.. i had packed on a lot of muscle onto a tiny frame and my metabolism was sky high.. now i have a big frame n my metabolism is better than average but not what i want it to be and not what i deserve considering how much and how hard i train..
wasting away no matter how much i ate. read about beef liver being a superfood. tried it and it helped, narrowed down what is in beef liver and researched those vitamins, help with insulin sensitivity.. looked at blood tests careful and noticed high sugar levels.. took insulin and felt brand new again.. a lot of trial and error.. at first i thought i had anemia because b vitamins and iron helped my blood pressure but my blood tests showed they were normal. i was close to dying.. i would be laying in bed and my heart would be beating fast, i was afraid to go to sleep because i would wake up in the night thinking i was having a heart attack till i drank some water. ended up going to the er due to dehydration so bad that my heart wasnt beating correctly and i couldnt drive because my vision was blurred and i couldnt concentrate.. just a lot of things point to insulin resistance.. i also read that GHRP is known to cause it and i used 3 whole vials of ghrp while eating a crapload. i gained 20lbs and figured i wouldnt have any issues because i worked out hard and had low bodyfat..How do you know you had insulin resistance?
I dont know about IGF but I know with Slin I have been off it for some time and I still go hypo every now and then out of no where. BS doesnt drop as low as it did when i was on slin but its enough to make me run around looking for carbs.
i love the feeling of waking up hypo, cept the brain fog untill you get some gatorade in.. feels lean, healthy, and hungry enough to eat a steak.. that shrunken stomach feeling
i agree with you but when you wake up feeling dizzy and confused all you wanna do is get unhypo before you fall and hit your head.. i havent planed a protocol because im still not sure if i want to use it. sounds perfect to me but i want to read more experiences.. igf is one of those things where people say it was good or bad or explain in scientific terms.. but no one has really said what kind of results they got. i only want to take it if it has a neutral or positive effect on blood sugar utilization in the long run. im trying to actually get healthier. i know IGF is linked to cancer and supposedly shortens life but i think it might be necessary for me right now. if i was going to do it, i would do small doses to try and make sure i minimize intestinal growth. i think i want to order some, now im thinking about whether i should do it on a cycle and if so, with that compound.. i really want to know all the possible negative side-effects and i wanna hear about some awesome results people got.gatorade should be the last thing you put in when waking up to refeed if your going hypo. I all ways have my breakfast preprepped so all i have to do is heat up water for the oats and cook my eggs. But when I am on slin or anything i dont waste the slin with shit foods. I make sure the best quality foods go into my muscle.
As for the IGF with him hes tried purchase pep and said they were ok but nothing to what he once had. He runs IGtropins now and loves them. But isnt a fan of the "USA" research pep's.
What dose are you going to do and how are your going to run your protocol?
Not totally OT here, but if I was to guess....99% of the IGF being sold on RC sites and what have you are all BUNK. You guys have any idea how much it costs and how much effort is involved in making this stuff? It's VERY expensive. My guy doesn't sell the stuff or use it, he works in a lab where they supply him with it for research purposes, and every so often I'm able to get a couple grams. I don't know how true this is, but I was told that REAL IGF costs a lot more than REAL HGH. Don't quote me on it, but that's what I was told. The compound is extremely fragile and the equipment needed costs a fortune to manufacture the real stuff. I've tried many kinds of IGF from different websites over the years, and they are ALL NOTHING like the stuff that my buddy gets for me from the lab he works at. I don't even use IGF unless I can get it from my buddy...I have a good stash in my reserve, but I won't waste my $$ on other IGF....don't care who it comes from. IMHO!!!
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the reason ghrp causes insulin resistance because it keeps blood sugar levels high.. this causes hyperinsulinemia which causes receptors to downregulate.. my sugar levels remained high after i stopped using the ghrp so thats my reasoning
the GHRP made my waist wider and my torso longer, and my arms are longer.. i look more blocky with long limbs than before when i had the nice V taper and classic bodybuilder look with small waist.. im hoping IGF, which is responsible for puberty, will help me get the size i need on my long arms, and i desperately want my insulin sensitivity low again.. the GHRP made me grow but i have the body of a kid again, i need to mature and from what i read IGF is responsible for that.. i'm strong as fuck but i have a slender child like look with a bunch of mass on it.. i'll compete when i know i look good.. the IFBB pro said i have a good look though, i am very lean and strong.. i just dont think im shaped right to compete. i have high expectations.. i used to have girls telling me i look like a greek god.. now they just call me buff :X
I think eveyone should understand that using let's say GH in large quantities is plain not that smart if you understand the risks. If you take a look at nature when there are the 2 times insulin resistance occurs naturally....