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    Herpes zoster I got it!






    That's right I got fucken shingles!! It is terrible. Apparently anyone who had chicken pox can get it. It lays dorment in your nerve ends and when it flares up oh my fucken god it hurts!! Literally feels like my skin is on fire inside and my lung is collapsed. Needless to say I was ordered to stop all gears and training as my immune system is severely compromised. Anyone have any experience with this disease. And opinions on some sort of emergency pct protocol. If this is in the wrong section a mod can move it to the appropriate section.

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    Good luck, shingles are no joke. My friend had a severe case a few years back. He had some pretty bad nerve damage but he was also dieting for nationals at the time and very depleted.
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    Thanks bro I hope I caught it early enough to avoid any major issues but who knows. Is he I know?

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    Shingles s the worst, got it 10 years ago. Just relax and cut back or take a week off of training, stress makes it worse and probably contributed to the problem. Shingles only pops up when your immune system is compromised.
    If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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    Valtrex is for herpes. It can help with shingles. High dose l-lysine is a good OTC. It works really well also.

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    I have had 2 small cases and one larger all this fucking year!!! It's been fun. Gears... anytime I take something with EO it flares up... I got a very small case of it on my hands. I totally resisted the urge to scratch (not easy) and stayed loaded up on Benadryl it helped immensely. Good luck I have dark spots/ scarring all around the right side of my torso from bellybutton to Spine
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    That sucks D-Lats, hope you get better!

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    Oh yes, I had shingles!

    I had them on the back of my head right above my neck, actually, it was where I had taken shrapnel a few years before and it hurt like hell! The way I could best describe the pain is like I went to a BBQ and pissed the host off and he threw the white hot coal dust on me....

    I just rode the shit out and drank a lot of beer and smoked a lot of weed....I think it was about a week, a week and a half for it to subside.

    I feel for you D! Hang in there.

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    Thanks bro your description is bang on. I have 36 budweisers 5 bottles of wine and I'm in the weed capital of Canada so I'm going to do my best to stay sedated

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    ^ D, come to think of it, the weed made the pain more pronounced and just made me focus on the pain in that 1 spot.

    The alcohol will help numb you numb the pain. Shit, if the pain is severe enough like mine, not proud of this, but I drank enough till I passed out a few times.

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    Lol I could see that being possible.

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    Sorry D..I know it sucks my mother had shingles and she said it es horrible.. I had the chicken poxs so it's in me as well...hope you get better soon....

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    Coconut oil tends to get rid of the all symptoms of eczema. You could try it for the shingles.


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    Overview of Shingles***

    Once is more than enough for one of the most excruciating illnesses you?re likely to ever experience. *Shingles, also called herpes zoster, is a viral infection that causes a rash of painful, fluid-filled blisters.* Shingles is caused by the varicella-zoster virus.* This is the same virus that causes chickenpox.* The herpes zoster virus is a nasty bug. *It even suppresses the immune system by infecting CD4 t cells and macrophages (as does the HIV virus).***

    Shingles is more common in older people (about half of the people over 80 will develop it) and people with weakened immune systems. *If you're infected with shingles, you can pass the virus to anyone who hasn't had chickenpox, but that individual will develop chickenpox at that time, not shingles.***

    According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders, you must first have had an outbreak of chickenpox in order to develop shingles - which is triggered by residual virus particles in the nervous system. *Roughly 20 percent of people who have had chickenpox will eventually develop shingles, usually at a time of great stress. *Obviously, if you have serious stress of any kind going on in your life, reducing your level of stress may help give you some relief from shingles.***

    Shingles usually affects only one side of the body - commonly appears in a band, called a dermatone, that wraps around one side of the chest, waist or neck. *The first symptom you will feel is usually pain, accompanied by burning, numbness or tingling, then a red rash that develops into blisters. *Fevers, headaches and fatigue are also common. ****

    If you think you may have shingles, see your doctor right away. *If shingles blisters aren't properly treated, they can become infected (one reason for our Skin Defense). *Two or three weeks after the blisters develop, they fill with pus, break open and start to crust over. *A*painful skin rash*with blisters occurs when stress activates the dormant chickenpox virus. **

    Shingles can take four or five weeks to clear up, and some people experience lingering pain, called postherpetic neuralgia, at the site of the blisters long after they have healed. *However, there are some things about this virus that you should know - especially if they want to avoid a second bout with it.

    Reoccurrence***

    If you?ve ever had the*herpes zoster virus, you may believe that at least you?ll never get this extremely painful condition again. *At least it?s conventional wisdom that once you contract this virus, your immune system will protect you from another episode for the rest of your life. *Well, a single episode is not always the case. *You can get shingles multiple times. *In fact, this is more common than you may think.****

    The varicella-zoster virus that causes chickenpox is not eradicated from the body when a person recovers from chickenpox.* Instead, it lies dormant in the nervous system and can be reactivated if the immune system weakens.**

    Originally, recurrences appeared to be limited to people with suppressedimmune systems. *At least, that?s what doctors believed. *Then researchers at Olmsted*Medical Center*discovered something different. *When they examined the medical records of around 1,700 patients with a single past episode and healthy immune systems, they found that a number of these people had a second or third case of shingles.**

    That?s not all they found.**Women were more likely than men to get shingles - and they were also more likely to have a recurrence! *A second episode also was more common in people who experienced pain for more than a month after the initial onset.

    Vaccine**

    Acyclovir,*an antiviral drug, has been the usual treatment.* Now there is also a shingles vaccine that is suggested for people over 60.* An experimental vaccine can reduce both the incidence and the severity of shingles by more than 50%, doctors reported.* This is a development that could spare hundreds of thousands of elderly Americans from an extremely painful disease.* The effectiveness of the vaccine was determined in an unusually large clinical trial involving more than 38,500 people over the age of 60, the group most prone to shingles, a skin and nerve infection.**

    "I think the results are quite clinically significant," said Dr. Michael N. Oxman, the leader of the study, which is being published in The New England Journal of Medicine. *"There's a major reduction in the overall burden of illness of shingles."* Merck, the developer of the vaccine, has already applied to the Food and Drug Administration for approval. *It would be the first new vaccine primarily for older adults in 30 years, according to Merck officials.**

    However, it may not be safe for anyone with a*suppressed immune system. *In addition, like most vaccines, it could damage your immune system.* The shingles vaccine is a*much more potent version*of the chickenpox vaccine given to children. *The vaccine boosts the immune system to keep the virus from being reactivated. *It is not expected to help treat people who already have shingles.**

    It is estimated that more than one million people develop shingles in the United States each year, with both the prevalence and severity of the disease rising as people age. About half the cases each year are in people over 60, so widespread use of the vaccine in that age group could prevent 250,000 cases a year, said Dr. Oxman.**

    Fortunately, there are also alternatives.

    Role of Lysine**

    Our other articles about shingles and herpes talk about the effectiveness of our*Monolaurin*and*Skin Defense.* ***

    In addition, we want you to know that there is solid evidence that the amino acid*L-lysine*(or just lysine) is also helpful in treating the virus.**

    According to the*University of Maryland Medical Center, lysine treats shingles by speeding recovery time, as well as reducing the chance of recurrence.* They say you might take L-lysine supplements to help prevent herpes outbreaks, or reduce the frequency or severity of cold sores and genital herpes outbreaks.* TheUniversity of Michigan Health System notes L-lysine may also help treat shingles. ***

    Lysine helps prevents herpes from spreading because it competes with arginine.* Arginine is another amino acid that*helps*the herpes virus replicate because it is required by the shingles virus to multiply. *Taking l-lysine will interfere with the availability and/or usability of arginine by viruses.**

    This also indicates that lysine may help treat*mouth and genital lesionscaused by the herpes simplex virus.**These are solid reasons to consider reducing the consumption of arginine, and supplement with L-lysine.**

    L-lysine is an essential amino acid that your body needs. *Unfortunately, *your body can't make L-lysine.* You must get it from your diet, from eating certain foods. *You can get L-lysine from food sources such as beans and legumes, brewer's yeast, fish and meat and dairy*products. *Animal proteins like meat, poultry and eggs contain the highest amounts of L-lysine so deficiencies are usually found only among strict vegans.**

    You can also get L-lysine from taking a*supplement!

    DosageCautions:**

    Taking some lysine can be very helpful.* However, it is good to be aware that taking*too much*L-lysine could increase your cholesterol levels or cause gallstones, warns the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. *The same goes if you have high cholesterol, gallstones or kidney or liver disease.* Lysine can also increase the toxicity of certain antibiotics.*This makes it sensible to consult your doctor before taking L-lysine supplements*to discuss a safe dosage.*

    * The typical recommended intake of L-lysine is 1 gram per day for prevention, and a therapeutic dosage during an outbreak is usually 1 gram taken three times a day, notes the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. *Many places recommend higher doses but we would recommend asking your doctor before doing so.* Keep in mind that our Monolaurin and Skin Defense are also helping.* You can find l-lysine in any health food store or, since we order many things from Vitalabs, we usually recommend NSI?s L-lysine at*Vitalabs.* *

    Obviously, the people who have tried our*3-Step Shingles Treatment*have been much happier with the natural solution to their problem.

    References:

    University of Pittsburg Medical Schoolhttp://www.upmc.com/healthatoz/pages/healthlibrary.aspx?chunkiid=21791University of Maryland Medical Schoolhttp://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/lysine-000312.htmBeauman JG. Genital herpes: a review.Am Fam Physician. 2005 Oct 15;72(8):1527-34. Review.Bruzzese N, Sica G, Iacopino F, et al. Growth inhibition of fibroblasts from nasal polyps and normal skin by lysine acetylsalicylate.*Allergy. 1998;53:431-434.Civitelli R, Villareal DT, Agnusdei D, Nardi P, Avioli LV, Gennari C. Dietary L-lysine and calcium metabolism in humans.*Nutrition. 1992;8(6):400-405.De los Santos AR, Marti MI, Espinosa D, Di Girolamo G, Vinacur JC, Casadei A. Lysine clonixinate vs. paracetamol/codeine in postepisiotomy pain.*Acta Physiol Pharmacol Ther Latinoam. 1998;48(1):52-58.Di Girolamo G, Zmijanovich R, de los Santos AR, Marti ML, Terragno A. Lysine clonixinate in the treatment of primary dysmenorrhea.*Acta Physiol Pharmacol Ther Latinoam. 1996;46(4):223-232.Dietary Guidelines for Americans 2005. Rockville, MD: US Dept of Health and Human Services and US Dept of Agriculture; 2005.Fini M, Torricelli P, Giavaresi G, Carpi A, Nicolini A, Giardino R. Effect of L-lysine and L-arginine osteoblast cultures from normal and osteopenic rats.*Biomed Pharmacother.*2001;55(4):213-220.Flodin NW. The metabolic roles, pharmacology, and toxicology of lysine.J Am Coll Nutr. 1997;16:7-21.Furst P. Dietary L-lysine supplementation: a promising nutritional tool in the prophylaxis and treatment of osteoporosis.*Nutrition. 1993;9(1):71-72.Gaby AR. Natural remedies for Herpes simplex.*Altern Med Rev. 2006 Jun;11(2):93-101. Review.Griffith RS, Walsh DE, Myrmel KH, Thmpson RW, Behforooz A. Success of L-lysine therapy in frequently recurrent herpes simplex infection. Treatment and prophylaxis.*Dermatologica. 1987;175(4):183-190.Hugues FC, Lacoste JP, Danchot J, Joire JE. Repeated doses of combined oral lysine acetylsalicylate and metoclopramide in the acute treatment of migraine.*Headache. 1997;37:452-454.Krymchantowski AV, Barbosa JS, Cheim C, Alves LA. Oral lysine clonixinate in the acute treatment of migraine: a double-blind placebo-controlled study.*Arq Neuropsiquiatr. 2001;59(1):46-49.Singh BB, Udani J, Vinjamury SP, et al., Safety and effectiveness of an L-lysine, zinc, and herbal-based product on the treatment of facial and circumoral herpes.*Altern Med Rev. 2005;10(2):123-7.

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    For those that don't like to read just go to the lysine section.

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    Nice bro
    im at the hospital now the pains off the fucken chart!! I'm ready to start peeling off skin with a box cutter.

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    Sorry to hear that bro. Well you know how to prevent moving forward. Get well soon.... We got a show to win. Lol!

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    this is supposedly not possible but i think drs are not onto everything concerning this. i got it while cleaning mold from an old cellar. it was on my eye and mild but hurt like hell. i put oatmeal and hot water in a baggy like a heating pad and it helped with the pain. my landlord got his guy to finish cleaning the mold and he got shingles around his waist. there HAD to be a connection to the mold. i know you had to have had chicken pox then your immunities get so low it resurfaces... i think the mold made it happen. you cannot catch them from another person.

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    oatmeal and black tea bags can definitely help with the pain some....

    if it were me I'd throw a box of tea bags in the tub (not even kidding) and put some rolled oats through a coffee grinder and throw em in there too..

    lysine and valtrex are both antivirals..

    if the pain is really severe ask for gabapentin..will only fuck you up for about a day till you get used to it and it blocks nerve pain , its not addicting

    I'm really sorry I'm somehow immune to chicken pox even though I've never had a vaccine and only know this because my dr kooked when I enlisted when I mentioned I'd never had chicken pox. I was getting all my immunizations before enlisting to avoid the cattle guns


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    I got a script for valtrex and morphine. I feel way better today and haven't taken any pain meds. Not sure about getting t bagged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Lats View Post
    I got a script for valtrex and morphine. I feel way better today and haven't taken any pain meds. Not sure about getting t bagged.
    Uh.... Morphine...... bag it! Never know when you'll need it.

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    Glad you're feeling better!

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    Ya I'm not a big fan of morphine. Had a slight issue with OxyContin 10 years ago and the morphine feels way too similar. It was nice to have for the severe pain soon as it's gone they will be going down the toilet.

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