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    GH whats the difference between generics and pharm

    This has been long disputed on many boards and most will say when it comes to spending money you get more for your money with generics. Whether I disagree or agree is irrelevant to the facts. Everyone tests gh with a serum test. This will in fact show its gh but how pure or how much ius you are injecting, it will not. Also this tests if if is gh but not if its 191aa or 192aa. The true test to see a gh's quality is through an igf test over time. It is said that with generics the number will never be as high as with the same dose of pharm. Also results with generics may diminish because of the antibodies made to fight the impurities

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    your had to know at least one person was going to answer this way ^^^


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    I will say this and it is purely my bropinion... if I had 6 kits of blue to generics and used then at 4 - 6ius Ed for the last 5 months, they don't even compare to the Rips I've been using at 2 - 4 ius Ed. The higher quality hgh is exponentially stronger and better than any amount of a cheap generic. I would spend the the money on one kit of rips over the two kits of generics because even though it's double the amount it doesn't work out physiologically.

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    i think bush means rips vs say, the seronos

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheriV View Post
    i think bush means rips vs say, the seronos
    Oh... Haven't been down that avenue, but I'm sure the same applies.....

    So bush the seranos that are three times more than the rips are that much better? And this is a serious question because I wasn't convinced about the difference of cheap generics versus rips until I direct the extra money and was wowed.

    So bush are they brother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christsean View Post
    Oh... Haven't been down that avenue, but I'm sure the same applies.....

    So bush the seranos that are three times more than the rips are that much better? And this is a serious question because I wasn't convinced about the difference of cheap generics versus rips until I direct the extra money and was wowed.

    So bush are they brother?
    I think so and currently they are less than double the rips if you do the $ per iu. I think the more you pay the more you'll get. Don't get me wrong I think the rips are probably the best bargain but I think there is a reason most pros just take pharm grade.
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    I would say with pretty decent confidence that my exp with Pharm HGH over the long haul is more extensive then most...as I'm scripted it...there is a big difference not only between Pharm grade and generic....but a difference between different Pharm HGH brands..be it genotropin..tev-tropin or serostim...they all gave similar but indifferent sides or results..

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    Some places will mass spec peps for you. Easy peasy.
    How many vials are needed for the test? I would submit all my gh to mass specs if you send me details.
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    I have an instrument in my lab called an FTIR. It analyzes a compound using infrared and each compound has a unique signature. Now I can't quantify without spending some serious machine time. But I can run any compound against a known reference to see if the compound is legit. I will post some tren and test results tomorrow.

    I haven't tried any of my hgh yet, but I would love to run my rips and compare them to some blue tops I have .

    I also have real Anavar, but not sure how to dissolve it properly. When I figure it out, it's going to be on.


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    I'll never touch another generic unlabeled color top as long as I live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I'll never touch another generic unlabeled color top as long as I live.

    50 percent junk... 50 percent close to junk
    smart!
    i think more then 50% junk...fake...empty vials..inside some t3 and insulin.. or nothing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I'll never touch another generic unlabeled color top as long as I live.

    50 percent junk... 50 percent close to junk
    This^^^

    I have not taken the GH plunge from reading all the reports like this. If I buy some I want something effective not spend hard earned money for junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crawfBigG View Post
    This^^^

    I have not taken the GH plunge from reading all the reports like this. If I buy some I want something effective not spend hard earned money for junk.
    Funny thing is everyone falls into a trap. They see something too good to be true and say what if. I can find any color top that is legit gh BUT I have also been dealing with the same sources for 3-5yrs. Not one has ever had a low test. But are they all created equal? Not at all.

    Like s2h said pharm is expensive and they are all different. I put norditropin/ genotropin up there as the best. Serono are still very good but not at that level.
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    Thank you sir.


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    Great thread going here...

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    i can only say most generic gh that they say is 191aa and 100iu in kit is fake..there maybe 20iu instant 100iu! its why you can get bulk 100iu from 60-100$..yeah right..and sereno sizen is 1000+ and all other gh are a lot more expemsive!

    what all generic gh do..they do better batch to make first guys happy...then do bach with 0% gh inisde and make profit,etc...this will always happen.. and idiots will always buy sine HGH id cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by World-Pharma.org View Post
    i can only say most generic gh that they say is 191aa and 100iu in kit is fake..there maybe 20iu instant 100iu! its why you can get bulk 100iu from 60-100$..yeah right..and sereno sizen is 1000+ and all other gh are a lot more expemsive!

    what all generic gh do..they do better batch to make first guys happy...then do bach with 0% gh inisde and make profit,etc...this will always happen.. and idiots will always buy sine HGH id cheap
    I think your translator is on the frits again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SheriV View Post
    you need to understand wp speak..lol
    he said colored top no label generics are crap, this is why theyre so cheap..first batch is gtg, junk thereafter
    Quote Originally Posted by World-Pharma.org View Post
    there maybe 20iu instant 100iu!
    it was this part i did not catch??
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    Quote Originally Posted by World-Pharma.org View Post
    i can only say most generic gh that they say is 191aa and 100iu in kit is fake..there maybe 20iu instant 100iu! its why you can get bulk 100iu from 60-100$..yeah right..and sereno sizen is 1000+ and all other gh are a lot more expemsive!

    what all generic gh do..they do better batch to make first guys happy...then do bach with 0% gh inisde and make profit,etc...this will always happen.. and idiots will always buy sine HGH id cheap
    this is false, black tops were tested at 9.2 mgs per bottle where rips were tested at i believe 9.8 mgs per bottle. There isnt a big difference there. Most generics are around 5-6mgs per bottle. Also comparing any GH to the over priced US pharmacies is just stupid. Everything is crazy over priced in the US there is no way sero's are worth 1200$ its because big pharma can get insurance to flip the bill and make a fortune. Everything is produced in China anyways and shipped to the US. The US then does purity tests and checks if its with in standards. Also just because its US Pharma does not mean its legit.

    They just pulled allot of watson scripts off because it contained zero test in the bottles and swapped guys to another test.

    Now not saying rips or hyges are better then sero's you do have to take more to get similar results but your also paying 6 times less money. I have seen hyge and rips go for less then 200 a kit and seen seros go for 1200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay_steel View Post
    this is false, black tops were tested at 9.2 mgs per bottle where rips were tested at i believe 9.8 mgs per bottle. There isnt a big difference there. Most generics are around 5-6mgs per bottle. Also comparing any GH to the over priced US pharmacies is just stupid. Everything is crazy over priced in the US there is no way sero's are worth 1200$ its because big pharma can get insurance to flip the bill and make a fortune. Everything is produced in China anyways and shipped to the US. The US then does purity tests and checks if its with in standards. Also just because its US Pharma does not mean its legit.

    They just pulled allot of watson scripts off because it contained zero test in the bottles and swapped guys to another test.

    Now not saying rips or hyges are better then sero's you do have to take more to get similar results but your also paying 6 times less money. I have seen hyge and rips go for less then 200 a kit and seen seros go for 1200.


    you are wrong...9.2mg is cca 30iu
    1mg hgh is 3iu...

    i hope you know what you talk...

    90% generic HGh is scam fake! end story! all know that..only sources keep say my batch is good,etc..but old steroids and HGH gurus know what is good and what not.. i am 20+ years in this business..i know all scamms they do with gh,etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by World-Pharma.org View Post
    you are wrong...9.2mg is cca 30iu
    1mg hgh is 3iu...

    i hope you know what you talk...

    90% generic HGh is scam fake! end story! all know that..only sources keep say my batch is good,etc..but old steroids and HGH gurus know what is good and what not.. i am 20+ years in this business..i know all scamms they do with gh,etc..
    im sorry i meant IU... i was watching a youtube video on catching monster carps at the same time as typing this. But they lab tested at that many IU of pure hgh per to iu which to me is great. Hyge, Kefei, blacks, rips are all generics and all get serum labs over 29...

    What your your HGH serum tested at? just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay_steel View Post
    im sorry i meant IU... i was watching a youtube video on catching monster carps at the same time as typing this. But they lab tested at that many IU of pure hgh per to iu which to me is great. Hyge, Kefei, blacks, rips are all generics and all get serum labs over 29...

    What your your HGH serum tested at? just curious.

    i trust pharmacy i buy gh from so i never need to do any lab testing
    when i use 3iu humantropin or jintropin or if i try to use 4-5iu i cant handle..too strong! this tell me all about quality gh...

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    great conversation all the way around

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    why use gh,when slin is better by a fvcking mile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malk View Post
    why use gh,when slin is better by a fvcking mile?
    Um do you understand how they work? Its a negative feedback loop. When slin is high, gh and thyroid production will drop. What this means is you'll be a huge lard ass on just slin alone no matter how great your diet. Your question is like me saying why use an AI cause test is better? Slin is very anabolic but without completing the loop you'll still never get where you want.
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    I wont make a mistake and drop dead with gh

    also slin would be counter intuitive for my goals

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    I have a good friend that ran 10iu yellows for years and finally found a source for sero's. He runs 2ius of seros with better results.

    Only gh i run is Hygetropins while dieting and will run riptropins while bulking. I hold more water on rips then hyge's for some reason. That and I like to run 8iu while dieting the 200iu hyge kits are perfect because there 8iu bottles, and 10iu while bulking.

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