which one would you choose if you were me

[BIGBEN2011]

i can only afford either test e and pharma grade hgh. or rips hgh and a full cycle . so basically if you could afford just one or the other would it be hgh or gear not counting test it will be ran no matter what? my goals is to cut up and get ripped i have good size just want to be more aesthetic looking. diet and cardio and all that will be the same. please dont be to hard on me i am just wondering what you guys would do if you were me i only have so much to spend but i have been given a really good deal on some sero pharm grade hgh but i would not have any money left for nothing but test or i could buy a good amount of gear with that money i would have spent on those sero.

[SwoleZilla]

Rips and a full cycle

[bushmaster]

Pharm and test hands down.

[bushmaster]

Pharm gh and test. This is basically all I do now.

[jay_steel]

rips and a full cycle. I know plenty of people who run this and just about every National Ranked NPC guy. If its good enough for them its good enough for us.

[NoviceAAS]

Gear all the way !! No doubt bang for the buck the gear will take you miles further.

[bushmaster]

Gear all the way !! No doubt bang for the buck the gear will take you miles further.

I disagree 1000%. I gained 29lbs of lbm in a 14 week off season in 2012. My cycle?
20iu thanktropin
300mg test
I have my shows to prove it. 176lbs on stage in march to 196 in October.

Don't believe me go see my log with my contest pics.

[BIGBEN2011]

yall have my head spinning now guys.

[skinnyguy180]

i can only afford either test e and pharma grade hgh. or rips hgh and a full cycle . so basically if you could afford just one or the other would it be hgh or gear not counting test it will be ran no matter what? my goals is to cut up and get ripped i have good size just want to be more aesthetic looking. diet and cardio and all that will be the same. please dont be to hard on me i am just wondering what you guys would do if you were me i only have so much to spend but i have been given a really good deal on some sero pharm grade hgh but i would not have any money left for nothing but test or i could buy a good amount of gear with that money i would have spent on those sero.

Personally I'd like to hear the cycle that you are planning with the rips.

and how much test goes with the Pharm grade HGH? 750-1000 is different than 300-500 IMHO.

Also keep in mind that GH takes a while to work. so are you planning on running a 6 month cycle? are you on trt?

I just need more deets before voting. I'm just that way.

Disclaimer: I have not used GH yet. but depending on who you talk to around here you will get different answers as to the effectiveness of RIPS vs Pharma. and I would also check out the lab testing section.. that could sway your decision.

[SwoleZilla]

thats 20ius brotha...im sure he isnt doing 20ius of pharma gh

i do agree that pharma gh is way better than any other gh

I disagree 1000%. I gained 29lbs of lbm in a 14 week off season in 2012. My cycle?
20iu thanktropin
300mg test
I have my shows to prove it. 176lbs on stage in march to 196 in October.

Don't believe me go see my log with my contest pics.

[bushmaster]

Personally I'd like to hear the cycle that you are planning with the rips.

and how much test goes with the Pharm grade HGH? 750-1000 is different than 300-500 IMHO.

Also keep in mind that GH takes a while to work. so are you planning on running a 6 month cycle? are you on trt?

I just need more deets before voting. I'm just that way.

Disclaimer: I have not used GH yet. but depending on who you talk to around here you will get different answers as to the effectiveness of RIPS vs Pharma. and I would also check out the lab testing section.. that could sway your decision.

Good points! The length of the gh would interest me the most. If you can onoy run 3-4 months of pharm save it and run rips for a year with a heafty cycle.

[BIGBEN2011]

i stay on year round blast and cruise yea i would only be able to buy 1 kit of hgh pharm i all ready have 2 kits of rips i am running test and rips right now. the rips are working well for me but they have put size on me which i dont really need close to 10 ilbs in about 5-6 weeks i have used about 80-90 ius i have gained no fat but do have water weight which is making me not look aesthetic which is my goal. i will just get 2 more kits of rips and run a test,tren,mast and winny or var cycle. do you guys think i need to lower my dose of hgh since it is making me gain size and i am looking for fat lose? or do i need to up the dose of hgh to help with the cutting i am running arround 2-3 ius ed right now. well i think i made my mind up just sucks i have all ways wanted to run pharm grade hgh i just need to be happy i can afford and get good hgh period. thanks guys

[bushmaster]

Pharm will always be around. Do your planned cycle with rips. While on it save for pharm to use when you cruise or come off.

[bushmaster]

thats 20ius brotha...im sure he isnt doing 20ius of pharma gh

i do agree that pharma gh is way better than any other gh

That was 20iu generics but was just showing how valuable gh can be.

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I disagree 1000%. I gained 29lbs of lbm in a 14 week off season in 2012. My cycle?
20iu thanktropin
300mg test
I have my shows to prove it. 176lbs on stage in march to 196 in October.

Don't believe me go see my log with my contest pics.

Thats awesome! thats alot of hgh, i wouldent use more then 10iu, but thats just me and mostly due to cost I guess.
Good results for such low test dose and a nice amount of hgh. how long did you run the hgh? only 14 weeks?