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    Need help - breathing gets heavy






    I am 6 weeks into my 2nd cycle, Test/Deca, and I have gained 10 lbs so far. Last several days, I have noticed that I am easily out of breath, just walking a few blocks, and taking deep breath frequently. Also I can feel tightness in my shins when I walk several blocks.

    Questions I have,
    Will this go away soon once my body adapt to the new weight?
    Should I start doing some cardio?
    I have scheduled for blood test (female hormone panel and lipid panel) on Wednesday. Is there test results indicate why I am out breath easily?
    Should I go see my doctor?

    Thanks guys.

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    You should go see your doctor.

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    Cardio and electrolytes, lots of water.

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    Normally an increase in RBC which deca does should improve cardio . I do believe if RBC goes too high though it can cause the opposite. Have RBC and hematocrit checked .

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    Cardio water and try donating blood I would have crazy chest pain when I fid eq thought I would get a heart attack anytime

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    See a doc maybe blood pressure is high it happen to when am on a cycle only. Stop for now health is more important!!! But am not a doc and everyone is different.

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    I will donate some blood when RBC is high. Blood pressure is fine. I will drink even more water.

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    Wouldn't cardio make this even worse since I get easily run of breath ?


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    Today I got the test results. Should I be concerned with the results that are 'High'? Or this is normal while on Test/Deca cycle?
    What is surprising to me is that only the following were 'High' when I got the test results while on Test Cyp cycle last year.

    • Testosterone Serum
    • LDL Cholesterol
    • Estradiol


    I would appreciated if any vets can chime in.

    Thanks,
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    Usually BP, RBC, too much gains too quick, and/or bloat is what does it for me. RbC and gains in your case do not seem out of whack. Maybe BP or you are holding too much water. Test seem as expected, though I'm surprised rbc is so normal. Get your cholesterol improved. Red yeast rice, cardio, and lots of fiber


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFucker View Post
    Usually BP, RBC, too much gains too quick, and/or bloat is what does it for me. RbC and gains in your case do not seem out of whack. Maybe BP or you are holding too much water. Test seem as expected, though I'm surprised rbc is so normal. Get your cholesterol improved. Red yeast rice, cardio, and lots of fiber


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    Thanks for your comments. Isn't estrogen too high or I it normal for test/deca cycle?


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    Are you running orals as well? It's not crazy high, but I see your liver enzymes are up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxGetLeanxX View Post
    Are you running orals as well? It's not crazy high, but I see your liver enzymes are up.
    I ran dbols first 4 weeks at 30mg. Also I took milk thirstle as well for the liver.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tokijava View Post
    I ran dbols first 4 weeks at 30mg. Also I took milk thirstle as well for the liver.


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    That'll do it. If it were me, I'd drop down to a TRT dose of 150-200mgs of test only, get your health back up, donate some blood as mentioned, and re-test in another month or so. Consume more water, up the omega's and fiber also said above. And DEFINATELY add in some cardio.

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    dbol should have drove RBC up? weird, pharmacy usually has free bp checkers high bp can cause shortness of breathe

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    dbol should have drove RBC up? weird, pharmacy usually has free bp checkers high bp can cause shortness of breathe
    BP has been in the normal range since I started this cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxGetLeanxX View Post
    That'll do it. If it were me, I'd drop down to a TRT dose of 150-200mgs of test only, get your health back up, donate some blood as mentioned, and re-test in another month or so. Consume more water, up the omega's and fiber also said above. And DEFINATELY add in some cardio.
    Wouldn't that cause my libido to crash at that dosage? I am taking 400mg of Deca weekly.

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    I have been doing some cardio since I posted and I feel much better.

    I am wondering which blood test would show whether Deca is good or bad? I know that the Test is good since the test shows Testosterone serum is over 1500

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    is it shortness of breathe or lethargy, because lethargy is normal on cycle

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    Your labs are not all that bad . The dbol would be the culprit for elevated liver enzymes . Also dbol frequently causes lethargy and fatigue . Your blood is not too thick therefore no need to donate blood . Hematocrit , rbc and hemoglobin are all good . But your lipids are not very good . Your good cholesterol is low and your bad cholesterol is high setting you up for cardio/ heart disease . Your creatinine levels are high . This checks kidney function among other things . Drink more water , at least a gallon everyday . Clean up your diet more and avoid red meat for a while .Those steps along with more cardio should get all this back in order . I don't see anything making it imperitive to stop the cycle . Are you taking an AI ? Ai's will throw your lipids upside down but you do need some to get estrogen down to normal . Do you drink ? And also any other prescription meds ? There is no lab to check if your deca is good . You asked if you should do cardio . Everyone should do some cardio especially someone on AAS . As you can see it is already helping . Your labs are pretty typical for someone on a cycle taking test , deca and dbol . Also keep watching your BP .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokijava View Post
    Wouldn't that cause my libido to crash at that dosage? I am taking 400mg of Deca weekly.
    I meant to get off everything and run a low / med dose of test. I should have been more clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    is it shortness of breathe or lethargy, because lethargy is normal on cycle
    If I walk a little, I breathe a litter heavier so I think it is shortness of breathe

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    Quote Originally Posted by l69lou View Post
    Your labs are not all that bad . The dbol would be the culprit for elevated liver enzymes . Also dbol frequently causes lethargy and fatigue . Your blood is not too thick therefore no need to donate blood . Hematocrit , rbc and hemoglobin are all good . But your lipids are not very good . Your good cholesterol is low and your bad cholesterol is high setting you up for cardio/ heart disease . Your creatinine levels are high . This checks kidney function among other things . Drink more water , at least a gallon everyday . Clean up your diet more and avoid red meat for a while .Those steps along with more cardio should get all this back in order . I don't see anything making it imperitive to stop the cycle . Are you taking an AI ? Ai's will throw your lipids upside down but you do need some to get estrogen down to normal . Do you drink ? And also any other prescription meds ? There is no lab to check if your deca is good . You asked if you should do cardio . Everyone should do some cardio especially someone on AAS . As you can see it is already helping . Your labs are pretty typical for someone on a cycle taking test , deca and dbol . Also keep watching your BP .
    Thanks,

    I have been taking adex .5mg everyday for last 2 1/2 weeks to keep estrogen low in order to bring up libido. So is it impossible to keep both estrogen and cholesterol in check? Taking adex everyday to keep estrogen low but it causes high cholesterol so what options are there to keep both in check?

    I don't drink at all and I am not taking any prescription meds. I have been taking BP everyday and it has been in normal range most of time.

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    If you dump the Deca and drop the test dose to a "cruise dose" I would drop the Deca about 3 weeks BEFORE you drop the the test dose...just sayin
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    I read somewhere that changing AI from adex to aromasin would lower cholesterol including LDL.

    Can anyone confirm this?






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