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    Hey everyone, I'm wanting to do a bulk cycle with out to much bloat.
    im thinking about running
    sust 500-750mg a week
    npp 200 ( 400-600) mg a week
    dbol at 30-40mgs daily
    letro for estro
    dutrast for hair

    i was wondering what kind of pip I can expect from the npp 200, if I would be able to pin it 2-3 times a week.
    pretty sure the test won't have any from what others are saying about other test.
    also thinking about inject with a 27g 1 inch. Not sure if it will go threw, but worth a shot since I'll be doing a lot of pinning.
    im 27
    6 foot 180lbs

    also was thinking of just test prop 200 and running both prop and npp together in same shots 3x week, but again not sure about the pip.
    I've never done npp everyone says it's awesome for mass, want to try it out if you guys here at BP think so.
    all suggestion would be appreciated thanks.

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    dbol will give you bloat so you might as well use 50mg/day week 1-4 or not use it at all (my opinion).
    Quality NPP shouldn't give you pip (in my experience).
    Quality Sustanon also shouldn't give you pip.

    Dutasteride will help with DHT but if you're prone to MPB I would suggest not using AAS.

    You can back load an insulin syringe and 1" should be enough for delts, pecs even triceps.
    Just don't be impatient. It takes a while to push the oil through a 27 or 29ga needle.



    Is this your first cycle?
    I hope not at ht e doses you're going to run.

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    Hey pf thanks for the reply, no I've bee cycling for about 7 years but mainly just stick with test and little orals every now and then.
    I was told with letro and low dosage of dbol that the bloat would be very minimal if any, that's another reason why I'm posting, to get your guys opinion on it.
    im not prone to mpb(at least I don't think so) I'm reseeding though in the front but was told it's not mpb, but again who really knows. But I thought with dutasteride I shouldn't have any problems with dht?
    i was going to just pin in my delts, quads, glute that's why the 1 inch.

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    1" should be fine. Just go slow.
    I've used some pretty high doses in the past and did experience a bit of shedding.
    I even shed a bit on regular doses (50mg/day dbol, 500mg/wk Test E, 400mg/wk Tren E) but it hardly noticeable and always fills back in when I go off cycle.
    I guess I am lucky in that regard.
    Dutasteride should help but, as with your other compounds, you want good quality.
    Letro does help with bloat (good quality letro).
    Are you using Pharma grade or research chem (no need to name names or sources, that's what PM's are for).
    I am partial to Aromasin (Exemestane) myself but a lot of guys here will tell you NOT to use a suicidal AI.
    Even with the Asin I still experience bloat with dbol, I use HCTZ at 12.5-25mg/day when running dbol.
    It's best to have at least two different AI's on hand (from a trusted source) in case one doesn't work for you. You don't want to have to stop a cycle to deal with gyno.


    Lowering carbs a bit and staying hydrated can also help reduce bloat.
    Last edited by Paranoid Fitness; 02-18-2014 at 12:29 AM.

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    OP what's you're bf% estimate? You got abz?
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    200mg NPP could have a bit of a bite..



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    i appreciate all your guys input, I'm going to switch out the dbol for tbol and run it, hopefully everything goes smooth
    thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    200mg NPP could have a bit of a bite..

    yeah I'm curious on some feedback on it...the 100 was easily slin-pinnable and zero bite
    really smooth to draw and plunge

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    Yes i hear at 100 its g2g, but that means im shooting up 4x week, or 2x a week at 2cc, which i dont like doing to much oil in one spot. I would rather shoot 11/2 cc 2xweek lol
    do you guys think 400mg week are enough or should i go higher?

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    I'll let the boys answer because I tend to be conservative with doses

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