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    kidneys help!

    right guys is there any supps good for your kidneys?

    iv been on accutane 40mg for nearly 3 months now works great im clear just scars left doc wants me to go to 80mg now for the next 3 months!

    anyway i was cruising on test e for up untill now with no problem then iv just started back on cycle after 5 month cruise and im running the test e deca and eq fairly high dose.

    second pin i took was in the morning a few says ago 1ml of each compound i got what felt like tren cough put it down to must of pricked a vein or something but.. later that day i didnt feel great rather lethargic and no energy so i gave gym a miss... had night sweats that night ha woke up kidney was sore...

    been to train back yesterday and could feel it still sore.. still sore this morning now and im fucking so pissed off i know the accutane and the gear must be the cause im so pissed is there any thing that can help??
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    How's your creatanine clearance and GFR?

    Cordyceps and grape seed extract may help you.

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    dont know what creatine clearence and gfr is to be honest ?
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    Have you had labwork?
    If you have routine labs ordered by your doctor a renal function test is usually part of the test panel.
    Most docs will call for it once a year. More often if you have low GFR and high serum creatinine levels which are an indication of renal failure.
    If you haven't gotten it checked recently, I'd suggest it.
    I was just recently diagnosed with stage 3 CKD.
    There is no cure for kidney disease so do what you can now to prevent it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renal_function

    Hopefully it's nothing but I'd get it checked out.

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    GFR at 77 is rather low isn't it

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    Mine is very low (stage 3) at 44mls/min/1.73m2.

    http://www.renal.org/information-res....sIWRmSD4.dpbs

    That could be stage 1 CKD but you possible could have been dehydrated when the blood was s drawn.
    I think you should have a chat with your physician and maybe have the labwork done again.
    Creatinine comes from protein. Too much protein will damage your kidneys. Muscle wasting also increases creatinine.

    I am not a doctor.
    You can't get anything on this forum or the internet as a whole that a good substitute for an actual medical opinion.


    Your doctor will be better able to advise you than I can.

    Get in as soon as you can.

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    Most of the time the GFR is a derived value taken from the creatinine to BUN ratio. Since both of those are affected by intense exercise, hydration levels and diet, then an estimated GFR will be as well. You should have labs drawn in the am, fasting for a min of 8 hrs but drink a decent amount of water before hand. Caffeine and other drinks as well as ascorbic acid and other vit sups can alter values. Im not a MD either but i am a MLS and i have lots of experience with flagged results from patients not following instructions before labs are drawn. Hope this helps

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    And I've yet to see any study that offers definitive proof that too much protein decreases kidney function in healthy individuals. Its another of those things that keeps being repeated as fact yet remains unproven. Since few fact check these things they're taken all too often as true when usu they're dubious at best.

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    Have you checked for kidney stones? Sounds like a kidney stone to me; I had one once and it hurt like hell!!! Pain comes and goes as the stone moves through your urinary tract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solidassears View Post
    Have you checked for kidney stones? Sounds like a kidney stone to me; I had one once and it hurt like hell!!! Pain comes and goes as the stone moves through your urinary tract.

    i had something years agoi got really drunk sniffed coke on gear and went to bed popping pain killers because i was so fucked i thought it would counter out a hangover lol it hurt i didnt actually piss out any stones tho? as for the high protein can cause kidney damage were a;; fucked then il eat alotf of meat now adays espcially for my size and have shakes every day im consumking over 400g just from food somedays
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    my neighbor was a nurse and she checked my piss and it had blood in it, although u could not actuall see the blood there were traces
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimm View Post
    my neighbor was a nurse and she checked my piss and it had blood in it, although u could not actuall see the blood there were traces
    How did she check it? A urine strip test or what? If you can't see the blood then there are only a cpl ways to know either by the reagent strips or doing a microscopic and examining for RBCs. If there was trace blood via reagent strips then what were the other results? WBCs, bacteria, pH, specific gravity, protein, bilirubin etc. What is or isn't present with blood can tell if the issue is pre renal, glomerular, or post renal in nature. Just wondering if this is related to Accutane then why haven't you stopped taking it? and if so just as heavy iron said your docs an idiot for increasing the dosage. You really do need blood work and a urine analysis from a clean catch specimen to be certain. And water intake really can't be overstated. Btw i work in a hospital and for a college that trains nurses and i don't know many I'd trust to know if urine was normal or not. They send these things to the lab for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave 236 View Post
    How did she check it
    Just a quick taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Fitness View Post
    Just a quick taste.
    There was a time not so long ago when this was a standard screening method for diabetes mellitus. The doc would taste the urine to see if it had a sweet taste. Now That's dedication to your job.

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    blood in urine can be anything from renal failure, to a uti to a stone.

    I went through kidney stones at the ripe old age of 19 and was literally pissing blood (sorry for the tmi)
    like the urine sample looked like a blood sample.

    stones have a uhhh, longer tract to clear in men than women so its gonna suck a LOT if thats what it is.

    some kidney support would be, uva ursi (pretty harsh stuff, only take short term), dandelion root caps (pretty mild, nice kidney tonic, can also eat the leaves on salad daily), unsweetened concentrated cranberry extract (tastes like ass, get caps if you can)
    good luck but definitely follow up with your DR
    nothing to mess around with.

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