Bench press more difficult for long arms?

# Thread: Bench press more difficult for long arms?

1. ## Bench press more difficult for long arms?

So I'm a tall skinny guy and have always heard that long arms makes bench more difficult, certainly the longer your arms the farther you have to push the weight etc...

My question is: has anyone done any sort of scientific or mathematical evaluation of this concept?

For instance "we theorize based on our research that for every inch in arm length completing a bench press of x lbs is increased in difficulty by %Y."

...or maybe there's a rule of thumb that gym guys use like say "every 2 inches in arm length = minus 10 lbs on bench"

It's probably the case that people are so different that the above wouldnt' be applicable, and I wonder if bench press would correlate more with body weight than length but if it were possible I would like to see some statistics on both.

2. Stop using fucking bro science.

Just STOP.

You bench what you bench. Stop trying to make excuses for it or come up with some formula to make yourself feel better...

Well you see Sally, if I was 4" shorter with a barrel chest and stubby arms I should bench 405 according to my handy dandy formula.

Just go lift.

Warrior

3. Strength standards vary, but all are based on weight class.

If you MUST know...
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLi...Standards.html

My competition is my log book and the mirror. Start using those and stop worrying about what anyone else is doing.

Warrior

4. haha not worried about how much I bench really, I'm one of those that measures success using the mirror as well. I was just doing some reading on the NFL combine and was hearing a lot of scouts give Jadaveon Clowney some cushion-room when talking about his low bench reps (21x225). They sighted his arm length as a disadvantage and I wondered if there was ANY science behind this?

Maybe there's a meat head around that knows a little about engineering and leverage? or a physics guy haha IDK...it's beyond me so I thought I'd throw up a thread.

5. Originally Posted by lil-bit-slim
haha not worried about how much I bench really, I'm one of those that measures success using the mirror as well. I was just doing some reading on the NFL combine and was hearing a lot of scouts give Jadaveon Clowney some cushion-room when talking about his low bench reps (21x225). They sighted his arm length as a disadvantage and I wondered if there was ANY science behind this?

Maybe there's a meat head around that knows a little about engineering and leverage? or a physics guy haha IDK...it's beyond me so I thought I'd throw up a thread.

It doesn't matter. Warrior is right. You bench what you bench. There is no wind shear factor for weight lifting. You lift what you lift. Physics and anatomy is extremely useful for helping to increase performance and gains, but useless when used to explain why a person isn't lifting what they think they should. That just seems to me like fancy excuse making.

6. Of course there's science behind it.

It's called the law of the lever and it was proven by Archimedes a long time ago.

Do you even Greek history bro?

Warrior

7. I'm 6'8" and bench around 450 with full range of motion. Our long range of motion equals more tut.

I'm 6'8" and bench around 450 with full range of motion. Our long range of motion equals more tut.
So running that through the stubby arm/barrel chested conversion formula, your corrected bench is 765 raw.

Warrior

9. Originally Posted by Warriorblaze
So running that through the stubby arm/barrel chested conversion formula, your corrected bench is 765 raw.

Warrior
Yay! My mommy told me I would be tough one day.

10. 6'2 and i rep 405. I used to think it was a disadvantage. But one day everything just kinda clicked. i think Its more about getting to 1000 (or whatever number of) reps.

I think most lifts are like a golf swing and it takes a lot of strokes to get comfortable enough to even understand how to tweak it. Just forget about the weight and work on getting under the weight, coiling up on the way down and just exploding on the way up. One day it will come together and the weight increase

11. Originally Posted by dieseljimmy
6'2 and i rep 405. I used to think it was a disadvantage. But one day everything just kinda clicked. i think Its more about getting to 1000 (or whatever number of) reps.

I think most lifts are like a golf swing and it takes a lot of strokes to get comfortable enough to even understand how to tweak it. Just forget about the weight and work on getting under the weight, coiling up on the way down and just exploding on the way up. One day it will come together and the weight increase
I remember reading a science article about neural adaptation and motor function control that seemed to show that weight lifters continuously develop and strengthen the neural circuitry involved in specific lifts. That means you can actually lift more weight, become stronger, without even adding muscle mass.

Naturally, you want to do both: add mass and develop motor control, but most people never think of the importance of profecting their form to increase performance. I see some of the worst form in the gym, quarter rom squats seem to be the latest bullshit that everybody is doing.

12. Originally Posted by KelJu
I remember reading a science article about neural adaptation and motor function control that seemed to show that weight lifters continuously develop and strengthen the neural circuitry involved in specific lifts. That means you can actually lift more weight, become stronger, without even adding muscle mass.

Naturally, you want to do both: add mass and develop motor control, but most people never think of the importance of profecting their form to increase performance. I see some of the worst form in the gym, quarter rom squats seem to be the latest bullshit that everybody is doing.
The numpties at my gym are the kings of less than full range of motion everything. The reason I like going there? They never do legs so I always have the squat rack whenever I want it.

13. Originally Posted by Zaphod
The numpties at my gym are the kings of less than full range of motion everything. The reason I like going there? They never do legs so I always have the squat rack whenever I want it.
Oh really? Faggots don't curl in your squat racks? That is fucking amazing.

14. Originally Posted by KelJu
Oh really? Faggots don't curl in your squat racks? That is fucking amazing.
The curl machines are getting the fuck worn out of them. Occasionally there will be a bar in the squat rack that some asshole was using for curls sometime during the night.

15. 6'2 and I bench 220lb

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