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    Starting new cycle. Ideas welcome

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    6ft 215lb skin caliber test said 10% BF and 12% when I checked twice. I think I'm 15%-16%
    wk 1-11 250mg sust EOD
    Wk 12-16 350mg Sust EOD
    wk1-10 150mg Deca EOD
    wk 1-15 200mg Deca EOD
    wk 5-11 mast p 50mg ED
    wk 12-18 mast p 75 mg ED
    wk 1-4 dbol 30mg ED
    wk 16-18 dbol 30mg ED
    anastrozole 1mg ED
    prami 1mg ED
    Cialis for BP

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    clomid 100,100,100,100,75,75,75, then 50mg ed for 5 weeks
    Nolva 20mg ed 6 weeks
    anastrozole 1mg wk 4-8

    well what do you guys think?

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    Why eod with sust and deca? Also pct is 4 weeks and your goinf overkill with your dosages

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    5 weeks clomid and 6 weeks nolva isn't bad.. Especially with Deca. The 19nors shut you down bad. I have found in the past when I ran Deca 4 weeks pct wasn't enough (verified by blood work). I do appreciate the recommendation though. The EOD protocol is to maintain an even blood level. 2 times a week would be fine with the Deca but with the sust EOD is better IMO because of the short esters in it. I even do EOD when running test E. I've noticed less acne with this protocol then with 2x week.


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    Interesting information. Ill let my buddy know he usually gets bad acne even when running proper high ai. Why not run caber .5mg e3d prami apparently gives user nausea feeling

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    I actually run prami (mirapex) all the time anyways due to lack of labido from my seizure meds. I have severe traumatic brain injury that causes seizures and the depakote kills my labido and the mirapex helps out a lot. I had some nausea the first week or so but I titrated up and it wasn't to bad


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ainanalu View Post
    I actually run prami (mirapex) all the time anyways due to lack of labido from my seizure meds. I have severe traumatic brain injury that causes seizures and the depakote kills my labido and the mirapex helps out a lot. I had some nausea the first week or so but I titrated up and it wasn't to bad


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    Well it sounds like you have it down..I thought the PCT was a little over kill myself, but I do not know how many cycles you have ran...Other than that looks pretty good..After looking at your PCT again I do believe it to be overkill. Why did you add the adex weeks 4-8?
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    Well I was thinkin it would be good to reduce the E in my system before and right after dropping the clomid and nolva so I can raise free test levels and not have an abundance of estrogen just waiting to attach to my E receptors once the serms are gone. I figure better safe than sorry. I'll try and get a blood panel done at week 4 of pct to see if I need to extend it. The pct is def. heavy and long. I can see why you guys are saying it's over kill. Thanks for the input


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    So I was thinkin to help mitigate any pct issues, I'm gonna run 500iu hcg 2x week throughout the cycle. That way maybe 4 weeks clomid and nolva will be good enough. I'm still going to add the anastrozole from weeks 2-6 though of pct-Better safe than sorry


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    why not just run npp if your planning on pining EOD anyway?
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    And I'm not positive but I believe that if you pin long esters such as test E EOD that there is a build up that happens in your blood levels but i cant find the old roid calculator so I'm not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnyguy180 View Post
    why not just run npp if your planning on pining EOD anyway?
    The only reason for running the Deca ester was pricing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnyguy180 View Post
    And I'm not positive but I believe that if you pin long esters such as test E EOD that there is a build up that happens in your blood levels but i cant find the old roid calculator so I'm not sure.
    I know which calculator your referring to. That's where I originally got the idea for EOD injections with long esters. I couldn't believe the difference in blood levels when shooting EOD compared to 84hrs. The test levels really drop off after 60hrs so I started going EOD and noticed a reduction in acne.

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    yeah my rat is also pinning Test e and sust right now on a mon, wed, fri protocol. But im planing on adding NPP to it after a while and just added dbol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnyguy180 View Post
    yeah my rat is also pinning Test e and sust right now on a mon, wed, fri protocol. But im planing on adding NPP to it after a while and just added dbol.
    :-) I really wanted to try NPP but it just didn't seem worth paying almost twice a much mg for mg. I was originally thinking about running tren but I surf too much to risk my cardio, and I always run deca because I have such bad arthritis and Deca makes me feel like a new man. Also I was worried about taking deca ad tren together due to sides

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