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    Russia completes Crimea annexation

    Thank God we have a president like Obama in this situation. With his charisma, strong leadership and negotiating skills, he will have Putin eating out of his hand. Obama drove the Russians out of Georgia in 2009 when he cautioned BOTH sides to exercise restraint, he stopped the missile defense plan in Poland in order to promote peace in Europe. I am confident that Obama will not interfere with the affairs between Russia and Ukraine as well. If North Korea decides to reunite with the south, I am also confident that he will work the new government under President Kim Jong Un to promote peace and prosperity on the Korean Peninsula as well. We are fortunate to have a strong leader like B. Hussein Obama during such turbulent times.

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    You do realize that the people of Crimea actually wanted to become part of Russia, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    You do realize that the people of Crimea actually wanted to become part of Russia, right?
    Only 98% of Crimea wants to be part of Russia according to the vote. To hell with democracy, we gotta save face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    You do realize that the people of Crimea actually wanted to become part of Russia, right?
    This is the most important part. Almost all Crimean people are ethnic Russians. What's happening is a Civil war / split, and Russian is simply allowing a part to join Russia.

    To have the USA president -- Obama or otherwise -- talk about how Russia shouldn't meddle in a civil war just reeks -- reeks -- of hypocrisy. Don't get me wrong, I love my country and think that, overall, it's the best on the planet, but we're being ragingly hypocritical on this matter.

    The truth is that many of the old Soviet countries have done nothing but suffer since the fall of the Soviet Union. Now, many of them are looking back fondly of that era. We're going to see more countries willingly join with Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    You do realize that the people of Crimea actually wanted to become part of Russia, right?
    The switch to democracy and capitalism in a lot of eastern European country's has been less then ideal. There is a lot of divide between the generations due to the lack of economic growth. A lot of the older people feel things were better under communism.

    I think the GDP of that country is only like 4B, with a couple million people with most of that of course going to the top.
    William F. Buckley describes a conservative as, "someone who stands athwart history, yelling Stop." - and then proceeds to drag civilization back to times best left in history's dungheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    The switch to democracy and capitalism in a lot of eastern European country's has been less then ideal. There is a lot of divide between the generations due to the lack of economic growth. A lot of the older people feel things were better under communism.

    I think the GDP of that country is only like 4B, with a couple million people with most of that of course going to the top.

    Why the Nostalgia for an Old Communist Economy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    Why the Nostalgia for an Old Communist Economy?

    https://mises.org/daily/6697/Why-the...munist-Economy
    It's not nostalgia just a fact, I've done some traveling there also. Many Eastern European country's haven't fared very well but their independence also came at a bad time as the western country's in the OECD were just starting to financialize their economy's and they have not the experience to defend themselves from economic exploitation.
    William F. Buckley describes a conservative as, "someone who stands athwart history, yelling Stop." - and then proceeds to drag civilization back to times best left in history's dungheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Over 90% of the Crimeans want Crimea to become part of Russia. Why should we try to stop them? It isn't annexation, by the way. No more than it would be if a Canadian province wanted to become the 51st state of the US.
    Quote Originally Posted by LAM View Post
    It's not nostalgia just a fact, I've done some traveling there also. Many Eastern European country's haven't fared very well but their independence also came at a bad time as the western country's in the OECD were just starting to financialize their economy's and they have not the experience to defend themselves from economic exploitation.
    So, IOW they still needed mother Russia to protect them from the evil capitalists in the west. That explains why N.Korea has faired so much better than the south since the Russians and Chinese helped liberate them from the western imperialists in 1953.

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    it was our own govt., the CIA who was behind the protests that got rid of the democratically elected president of Ukraine starting a shit storm over there. now it all backfired with Russia taking a part of Ukraine. it all can be traced back to our foreign policy of interventionism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    it was our own govt., the CIA who was behind the protests that got rid of the democratically elected president of Ukraine starting a shit storm over there. now it all backfired with Russia taking a part of Ukraine. it all can be traced back to our foreign policy of interventionism.

    ..Our intervention in other countries politics is the root cause, it's ok we invade Iraq, so why can't Russia invade Crimea ??? I wish we would work on rebuilding America, our schools, bridges,highways and let other countries sort it out for themselves, the only people that advantage from our interventions are the corporations & oil companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    ..Our intervention in other countries politics is the root cause, it's ok we invade Iraq, so why can't Russia invade Crimea ??? I wish we would work on rebuilding America, our schools, bridges,highways and let other countries sort it out for themselves, the only people that advantage from our interventions are the corporations & oil companies.
    Russia isn't invading anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Russia isn't invading anyone.

    I should of wrote 'Russia visits Crimea'.. maybe for a weekend sleepover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    I should of wrote 'Russia visits Crimea'.. maybe for a weekend sleepover.
    Or...you can go with facts and say, "Crimea chose to join Russia."

    Too obvious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    it was our own govt., the CIA who was behind the protests that got rid of the democratically elected president of Ukraine starting a shit storm over there. now it all backfired with Russia taking a part of Ukraine. it all can be traced back to our foreign policy of interventionism.
    Cia behind protests lol,,more like putins henchhmen,,,all the events leading up to now were
    Quick and all pre planned by russia imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malk View Post
    Cia behind protests lol,,more like putins henchhmen,,,all the events leading up to now were
    Quick and all pre planned by russia imo.
    do some research on the CIA and you'll come to that convulsion as well. it's the US who wanted the democratically elected pro Russian president out of office so we can have our own puppet to control in Ukraine.
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