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    Sponsor bashing and abuse

    Hey guys,

    I just wanted to take a quick minute to talk about our fellow sponsors and how SOME of the members of this board try to rip them off....they feel they can get away with getting free products or having their order resent, because of the lack of English they speak. The customer goes back and forth with the sponsor in hope that the sponsor will just give up and send a few more bottles or possibly another order. I have seen this happen MANY times with my own eyes, and I have even read where some guys were boasting about how they got free gear and such.

    And yes, I'm mostly talking about WP here. The man is one of the hardest working men that I know....he works his ass off and has minimal team members. He does 90% of the work all on his own. He does have partners in other parts of the wold if you order certain things HE does not carry locally.

    In a long story short, I have had him as a sponsor on many of the boards that I used to own and work on. He started getting a trend of people stating that they did not get their xanax. That happens when you deal with junkies. I told him to only offer it to customers that have spent a good $500-$1000 on AAS before they are allowed to do so. I heard a guy in my GYM that said he was going to get some test prop from WP....AND NOT PAY FOR IT!! Yep, that's what he said. I asked if you had a special relationship wit WP.....he said, "no, I just bitch a few times and he sends me shit". I flipped my shit when I heard this and almost made him swallow a plate as if it was a tic tack.

    Those of you who try and scam WP should damn well be ashamed of yourselves. The man has been in this business for at lease 1/2 dozen years....he's not going to risk it all on some xanny head or two lousy bottles. A line has to be drawn. YES...it was I who told him not to resend shit without a customs letter. Man works his fuckn ass off and does all he can to make everyone a happy customer....than you have others that try to take advantage of his kindness. Like I said, I worked with him for many many years....and he is not going to risk his business over a pack of xanax or a couple bottle of oil.

    I'm not pointing ANY fingers here at anyone....so please don't PM me or ask me to get involved in a situation that is ongoing. I have worked with WP on several occasions, and with all the right paperwork and money trails, we have always come to a conclusion and understanding. But like that fucker at my GYM who said he's going to get some free gear from WP by just complaining a few times....those of you you who are like him should all rot away. Those of you being honest....my hat comes off to you for being sheer gentlemen.




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    This has been happening a lot to WP, but i think this should apply to all sponsors, domestic and international..That is completely ridiculous

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    yeah I don't want to get involved in any current or past drama but people that order need to also understand that if a sponsor DOES flip their shit and I don't mean just WP by any stretch that its probably because some jerk comes along and tries to scam them daily, so they're suspicious right out of the gate. Wouldn't you be a bit jaded if everyone was trying to get something off you for free every day?

    Look peeps, showing a customs letter is standard for international before a reship...it usually takes a bit for the letter to show up. If you've been playing the game for a bit you know this is how it works..asking for any deviation of that makes YOU look suspect.

    there is of course an element of human error but you have to be patient.
    again..this isn't in reference to any current drama that's going on..this is for all sponsors and customers

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    Xanax has no place in bodybuilding! Fucking junkies get a life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uplifted View Post
    Xanax has no place in bodybuilding! Fucking junkies get a life!
    It does if you're using enough Tren.


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    As a side point Vic, we all must be careful of those sponsors which come heavily recommended by a mod or admin to the community, sometimes the sponsor bails out and the mod who spoke for him, touted his reputation, praised him to the hilltops, then same mod or rep just holds up his hand and says, "well ,,he was a good guy till this happened" , ie: Big D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorblaze View Post
    It does if you're using enough Tren.


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    There are alternatives brother. Melatonin for an example. I have never heard of anybody use Xanax while on tren in my 20 years of AAS use until i came one this board. Just another thing to get addicted to, kids on benzo's. Why not just do coke for a pre-workout?

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    Because that's a waste of good coke lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorblaze View Post
    Because that's a waste of good coke lol


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    all true what you say Vic...and i am sure this scam way guys do will keep happen all the time..

    as i say cooper, i sent 12 vials.. if that last 2 vials will get sized,i will resend it free after you show me custom letter...its it..

    its not a problem 2 vials,but problem here on ironM is that a lot guys know i am good man and they try to little post and complain and good wp man just resend it..its it..happen all the time!

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    Can you please provide me a tracking number wp? i didnt even think of that, as a matter of fact i would like a tracking number of all 5 packages to make sure all is upfront and honest, your all about honesty right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CooperT View Post
    As a side point Vic, we all must be careful of those sponsors which come heavily recommended by a mod or admin to the community, sometimes the sponsor bails out and the mod who spoke for him, touted his reputation, praised him to the hilltops, then same mod or rep just holds up his hand and says, "well ,,he was a good guy till this happened" , ie: Big D
    This x2^^^

    Alot of money was lost because of this.

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    Very good post Vic. This has been happening for years and not just with WP but others as well. It even happens in my business. It is sickening to me that these guys take the risk doing what they do to provide us with quality products and members want to take advantage of them. To try to take advantage of someone who is trying to make a living and provide for their family in anyway is wrong. Fair is fair. Especially when someone goes out of their way to make sure you are happy with their service. It is sad to say but americans want the best of everything and they want it for free nowadays. Why work when you can collect welfare why buy insurance if the state can provide you with better insurance for free? Why pay top dollar for quality product when I can get a knockoff that looks the same for a 1/4 of the price? This mentality is ruining our country and most of us are guilty of it at some point. NOT VERY many work hard for what they got anymore because they want it handed to them. What is our country coming to? There should be a respect for those who take a chance for you to be able to do something that you want to do. Everything has a price. Freedom isn't free and there needs to be some respect for others who work hard in any industry to make our lives what they are today. Do the right thing and be thankful for everything you got. Treat others as you would want to be treated.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoe65 View Post
    This x2^^^

    Alot of money was lost because of this.
    ALot , alot, alot of money lost because of this Big D fiasco , much because a mod says, hey this guy is # 1 , you have to give him a try , and alot more with various other mods and reps recommending product from other sponsors ie Lucky Seven, Pars.
    I think the mods should, as many do giving credit where credit is due, be more invloved in disputes and oversight of potential and existing sponsors and these sponsors activities.

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    im from Ireland,its not the easiest to get gear here,mostly ordered from sites,getting good info and feedback on labs and products is vital.a site like this where contact with reps for problems
    ,questions or feedback and if and only if a lab/rep proves to warrant public repremand is a great resource and abuse of it and reps is just being an asshole.

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