Are you working w/ a doctor to get & interpret these tests to start with?
What would be considered to be an optimal Test and free test levels for woman? My wife's total is 16 (normal range is 8 - 49 I believe) and free is .2 (. 0-2.2). Obviously I feel they are low. She has all her lab work but those #'s are what caught my attention. What else might be helpful info for a female?
She's 40yo and we have a 4yo. We may decide to try to have another child before it's too late. I'm sure this would impact that.
Her libido sucks and she's always tired. She would like to try a low dose Test and we'd keep a close on on her #'s. She may try the gel but I've read about low dose Test prop but I have no idea what dose to start at the get #'s to a better place. I figure that prop could be started and stopped quickly if any issues arrive . I've also thought about possibly doing sub Q injections to slow absorption which may help get more control over the total. Am I on the right track in this thought process or way off?
At what point as far as T levels go will a woman begin to see masculinization issues?
I appreciate any replies or personal experiences, good or bad.
Those are very low. I'd work with a physician to see what can be done. There are plenty of clinics that work with anti-aging and hormones that can help out here.
You could try giving her prop, but that's not going to be a long term solution at all. Go see a doc!
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Thanks, that's what we thought. The doc wants to put her on a test/dhea gel. Sounds interesting. I think she will try and see where it gets her.
Any other females have any experience with the gel?
I am a nurse practitioner and female figure competitor. My specialty is hormone management. Typically optimal total testosterone levels for women are around 125-150 and free levels of 2-3; however this can vary from woman to woman. Some women do well with higher levels. Most women do better with injections or pellets. I personally think the creams/gels end up converting more to DHT and/or estrogen but some women do really well. Hope this helps
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Thanks Heather. They just put her in a gel that is Test and DHEA. We'll see how it goes. I just think that a very very low dose prop every 3 days or so may be better and easier to control levels after some trial and error. But what do I know?
I def agree, prop is a shorter esther so less conversion. Plus she can adjust the dose if needed. Hope she feels better!!
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your post caught my eye. The levels may seem low but without historic data from your wife's earlier years it's hard to know it lower levels are normal for her and she functions quite well at these levels. Since you talk about more children, and she is 40, I will assume she is not menopausal. Womens Test comes from estrogen conversion and her premenopausal levels are probably good. For Certain raising the test levels some what could not hurt. I would start with the gel you mentioned in the later post and give that some time to see the results. I have seen men in their 40's put on amazing amounts of muscle and get very lean keeping test levels from 800-1000 and with somewhat agressive workouts The transformation takes a year or so, but the sides are non existent and it very safe.
One thing I will mention as a woman about the Libido, womens sex drive is more highly tied to how they feel about the person they are with.It more emotional. If she is upset with something this is possibly the cause. you may want to examine that... just some friendly advice, no matter how high my test levels are, if i am annoyed at my husband, i tend to take care of business myself .
If you decide eventually to go the extra test route... an aqueous test gives excellent control of levels and can be given subq.
oh and no sub q oils!
Thank you all for your comments. I'd like to hear more about sub Q of oils. It is such a small amount and I know the absorption is different but is it really a no no? I was also thinking of suspension but I kind of thought that getting stable levels would be more challenging? I tend to use it as a pre-workout boost rather then a base Test for this reason but I really don't have any idea and I'm not sure if anyone does?
Btw she is going with the gel for some time. I am just looking into options for her. Of course your absolutely correct about not knowing her history and I agree.
As far as the other variables relating to libido, these are all things that are discussed and taken into account and I'm sure there is some of this going on as I am an idiot, as most guys are, from time to time . God knows what I've put her through in our 10 plus years of marriage. Communication and trial and error are all a part of this process.
Thanks so much.