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Test at 1951? At 750 to 1000mg per week?

1911, yes at 750 to 1000mgs a week. Pretty weak....

damn. This makes me nervous with an order on its way. Hopefully they address the issue.

Get bw, only to find out for sure. That's two times in a row, must be a coincidence....

I don't know anything about uncle z gear but try running some proviron with your test.

No, I'll just run better test.

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When did you pin before test?
 
Man this is odd to me bro. I just had there sust tested and it came back at 6000 on a dose of 1g a week. It's hard for me to believe that there that much of a difference between me and you. Iv had great scores on the past 2blood test iv had.
 

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Last pin was Wednesday morning, blood was taken Saturday morning.

When did you pin before test?

See above.

Man this is odd to me bro. I just had there sust tested and it came back at 6000 on a dose of 1g a week. It's hard for me to believe that there that much of a difference between me and you. Iv had great scores on the past 2blood test iv had.

Theres no date on that test you posted. Sorry but can't believe it since I have tested it myself twice. Two times is not a coincidence. Just saying, take it for what it is. Run whatever you want, but I am not running this gear anymore.

I thanked Z for compensating me for last time but I'm not sure either of us know what to do at this point, so it is what it is.


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damn. This makes me nervous with an order on its way. Hopefully they address the issue.

The best way is make bloods - can you do this for us SFW ??


Lift-on had 6000 - he used our sustanaon - so ,SFW your bloods will be very good comparisons

BTW -Rambo99 had two test with low score - so i will send for testing our sustanon - need three solid guys which make this test - Waiting for PM


Z.
 
I ran the sust to man more then once with great results.
 
Man this is odd to me bro. I just had there sust tested and it came back at 6000 on a dose of 1g a week. It's hard for me to believe that there that much of a difference between me and you. Iv had great scores on the past 2blood test iv had.

you need an AI.....

what was your testing protocol? days between last pin and test.
 
The best way is make bloods - can you do this for us SFW ??


Lift-on had 6000 - he used our sustanaon - so ,SFW your bloods will be very good comparisons

BTW -Rambo99 had two test with low score - so i will send for testing our sustanon - need three solid guys which make this test - Waiting for PM


Z.

Z, my first low score was with test enathanate and second low score was with sustanon 250. It may be beneficial to check on both. The test e seemed around 30-40% underdosed. The sustanon is majorily underdosed, basically my levels were slightly higher with double the dose.

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I ran the sust to man more then once with great results.

Yea I got great results too. That doesn't change the fact that test levels are not where they should be. You get my point?

I'm dosing 1g of sust and getting levels for 400-500mgs, busting my ass in the gym, and eating great so I got great results. That's what ppl don't get cuz they tend to eat better and train harder on cycle so they think its the gear even when its not.

I'm not saying this stuff is bunk, there is test in it obviously but it's under dosed. After I had the first issue with the test e I purposely doubled my dose running the sustanon just so that in case it was underdosed again I could actually get something out of it. And it was and I did...

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Guys, before we all jump to conclusions let's give everyone involved the benefit of the doubt.

I have been in contact with Z regarding the matter and he's trying to figure out, as am I, what may be going on.

What I will do is run another brands test enathanate at 500mgs just as I did with ep gear and get blood work just as I did last time. Same compound, same test. Then we will see if it is in fact the gear or something else.

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The best way is make bloods - can you do this for us SFW ??


Lift-on had 6000 - he used our sustanaon - so ,SFW your bloods will be very good comparisons

BTW -Rambo99 had two test with low score - so i will send for testing our sustanon - need three solid guys which make this test - Waiting for PM


Z.

Ok, I think i can do this.

Im using EP Test Enanthate from my first domestic order and I ordered more Test E (international) with my second order.
 
That's a good idea SFW.

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I would do this but I dont have any test from Z anymore I had a couple bottle of the EP test cyp, I didnt check bloods but I was on high cruise getting read for my cycle I am on now. I can tell you the Tren E and Deca from EP is G2g.
 
Z, my first low score was with test enathanate and second low score was with sustanon 250. It may be beneficial to check on both. The test e seemed around 30-40% underdosed. The sustanon is majorily underdosed, basically my levels were slightly higher with double the dose.

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Yes i know and this is very strange and underdosed is impossible -trust my - if this gear is underdosed - more than 30% pharmacy products in Europe is underdosed :)

In bout cases when you take test e and sustanon in your cycle was arimidex - maybe this i the problem ??

We need to check it - so please SFW make bloods and post result- thanks

Z.
 
You didn't understand my sentence :)

I don't want to fight-just want to solve this problem :)

Z.
 
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You didn't understand my sentence :)

I don't want to fight-just want to solve this problem :)

Z.

Idk why you edited my post but okay. I'm not arguing with you, you asked about the ai and I answered different AIs were used between the 2 cycles.

Like I said before I will test another brand to see if possibly something other then the gear is causing the low levels.

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Idk why you edited my post but okay. I'm not arguing with you, you asked about the ai and I answered different AIs were used between the 2 cycles.

Like I said before I will test another brand to see if possibly something other then the gear is causing the low levels.

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Upsss sorry for edited -it was mistake

I understand you - it will be very good idea test another brand and see results - but please use the same dosage- sust and adex

Thanks

z.
 
Guys, first of all, Let's get one thing straight. Not all guys will test the same levels, many factors are involved. Genetics (some will test higher then others), DIETS (eating low card DIETS effect this), stress (one of the biggest killers of testosterone), anxiety, Body fat (higher Body fat in a person versus a lean person makes a difference), etc, etc. So, you can't always compare yourself to others. I know guys who can take 300 MG of test a week and stay under 1000), rare but true. Sometimes these tests need further valuation by a specialist. I am on his EP line and I know the stuff is legit. Let's take a deep breath and let Uncle Z sort this out. Sometimes things happen for a reason.
 
So 1474 on 500mgs of test and then 1911 on 1g of test makes sense to you? Lmao, get real buddy. Unless someone has a legitimate reason this happened twice in a row, or has labs to prove otherwise, don't discredit my story or lab work. All the info is in front of everyones eyes, even ran a log this time for all to see.

I'm sick of these so called "supporters", thirsty for free gear, running around making false accussations. Lets see some blood work and less bullshit talk!

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So 1474 on 500mgs of test and then 1911 on 1g of test makes sense to you? Lmao, get real buddy. Unless someone has a legitimate reason this happened twice in a row, or has labs to prove otherwise, don't discredit my story or lab work. All the info is in front of everyones eyes, even ran a log this time for all to see.

I'm sick of these so called "supporters", thirsty for free gear, running around making false accussations. Lets see some blood work and less bullshit talk!

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First of all, let's get 1 thing straight. I don't make false accusations and don't appreciate you claiming I do. I don't know what happen with you are your tests. Never said they weren't true. Just said there are sometimes factors involved that can make some guys low versus others. I have taken blood work with his GENOs, came back higher then anything. So, I do test some things. I didn't test his EP line, but after 34 years of working out, I know what works and what doesn't. I take the test e and primo. I am in the best shape of my life in years. Went from 205 to 220 and little leaner then when I started, in 11 weeks. No doubt the stuff works.

I know a guy who took blood work at 500 MG of test came back at around 1500. Not the first time I heard that. I never said your tests were wrong, nor did I try to discredit you. I simply said that there are many factors involved when taking these tests and some guys will not test the same as others, not uncommon. You are getting worked up without letting Z make it right or for someone to help you. I can't make an assumption about you, nor will I with these tests. I do know you made some good gains, sorry your test didn't come back higher, but I have no clue about your history at all.
 
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I understand some test different then others, hence why I said I will test another brand. Lets get one thing straight, I don't need Z or anyone else's help. This situation happened once before and I was compensated. Now it happened again and there is nothing that can be done.

Again if anyone has a legitimate reason speak up. My 2 labs versus "naw brah I ran it its good" doesn't mean shit to me. Other then that leave it be heroes and let me test the other brand and see, maybe I'm the "type" that needs to run 8g of test a week.....

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I asked one of my friends who is an expert in reading and understanding blood work, his response:

I'd be more concerned with your anemia than your testosterone levels. Your high RDW and low MCV is suggestive of iron deficiency.

Have you had several phelbotomies?



here is that definition: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/phlebotomies
 
You don't have to be an expert to see that, they are slightly under. Why dont you let me worry about that and you worry about the underdosed gear you're going to continue pinning yourself with?

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I am not pinning myself with under dosed gear. I am trying to help you and see what is going on and you just come back beating me down. Not one time did I insult you or was derogatory.
 
Well thanks for trying to help. I think you misread my earlier response. I'm not asking for help here, this is a review thread. I reviewed the products I got from this sponsor and provided blood work twice.

I don't see you post much around here, you barely update your log. All of a sudden you chose this one thread to be a part of and help? Thats odd to me. If you are really concerned I suggest you get blood work brother for yourself brother.

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Like I said before I will test another brand to see if possibly something other then the gear is causing the low levels.

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I'm requoting this for everyone involved benefit. I got your message pesty and I pm'd Z. I'm not asking for help or anything. I will do what's above and let's leave it at that before this thing gets out of control any more then it has.


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To lower SHBG? You think SHBG is lowering total test that much?

That would be tough to believe. A number of factors can lower total test, but I don't believe this dramatically.

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Well hope you figure out what the real story is. I have 5 of these myself i bought from a sale a while back. They are from PSL but does that really matter? Its still EP Sus250. Haven't started my cycle yet.

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That would be tough to believe. A number of factors can lower total test, but I don't believe this dramatically.

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What else high cortisol? I know Aromatase will lower Test, and the higher your body fat % is the more aromatase you produce.
 
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