I'm into my second week and I have got a 12kg gain. I'm using 60mg dbol per day and using prop and test e together I had 2 pins for the first week at 2ml now 2nd week using 1.5 prop every 2days and 1.5 test e twice a week adding .5 to test and prop every week. My older friend suggest use prop and test e tha whole 12 weeks in a pyrimid n drop the dbol at 4 weeks. I have noladex and I wanna use hcg but never experienced it and would like someone to explain on how it's done??? And I read using hcg u can go back on in four weeks??? Thanks guys hopefully I get some helpfull info instead of ppl that comment with no intention of helping