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    What to use for sore nipple/slight lump on Test, NPP, Dbol?

    Obviously not supposed to use Nolva with the nandrolone. I'll get bloods back on Mon or Tues, should I just try to get whatever is out of line under control whether its Estro or Prolactin? I'm assuming the gyno symptoms would eventually subside then right?

    currently taking 30mg or aromasin ed and caber at .25mg e3d.

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    What to use for sore nipple/slight lump on Test, NPP, Dbol?

    Why can't you use Nolva and nandrolone? I've never heard the bro science behind that one.

    Your aromasin looks high and your caber is low.

    Bump the caber up to 0.5mg e3d.

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    Caber looks a little low to me as well. Letro will knock it right out but it will set you back a week or 2 letro in my experience gets in the way or does something to make the gear not as strong.

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    drop dbol asap and run letro
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    Haha, got milk?
    i was under the impression nolva somehow interfered with prolactin or progesterone which could potentially complicate things while running a 19-nor. I guess I'm going to wait for my bloods to come back either way. Dbol aromatizes to estrogen, as does the test and hcg I'm taking so I'll be interested to see if estrogen still is high on 40mg of aromasin or if my prolactin is high. I guess it has to be one or the other.

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    I'll put money on it that its the E not the prolactin

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    Both dosages are well Within the range reccomended for cycles. The stane is on the higher end and caber on the lower. I would jump on either nolva 40mg for 2 or 3 days then 20mg after or 120mg of RALOX for 1 or 2 days then 60mg after. Once you get bloodwork back you will see the issue, but it's most likely your estrogen. To put things In perspective I'm on trt and got gyno when my E2 was only slightly out of range, it was 52 on a scale of 15-42. The cycle your on would prob put your E2 At 250+, and conciderng some people get gyno when the e2 is only slightly high it's easy to see how gyno can arise even on 30mg stane.

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    The great thing about asin is you can run it high and not crush your e2. But with that said, if your e2 comes back high then I'd suggest replacing it with letro until symptoms subside then adjust your dose or continue with adex instead. At 30mg ed of asin you should be in normal range. I've been telling guys for probably 2 years now that asin is a better option for on cycle and you can take an upwards dose of 50mg daily without any issues. HeavyIron just posted an article yesterday that backs up what I've been saying this whole time. The problem is very few people take the time to do any real research off of aas boards that are full of bro science and parroted bs. Also you should consider possibly increasing your caber dose. Does the lab work you got include prolactin or progestin?
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    Hey sherk, when people on cycle complain of gyno setting in and are on stane why does everyone jump right to letro. It's super strong and tough to dial in. Isn't adex a much better middle ground. .5mg EOD and maybe up to ED. it just seems like a much better option with much less chance of crushing e2 and ruining a cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machmood View Post
    Hey sherk, when people on cycle complain of gyno setting in and are on stane why does everyone jump right to letro. It's super strong and tough to dial in. Isn't adex a much better middle ground. .5mg EOD and maybe up to ED. it just seems like a much better option with much less chance of crushing e2 and ruining a cycle
    Exactly, Only go the letro route as a last resort. Adex will crush your E2 as well. done that thats no fun. and yes dialing in the adex much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherk View Post
    The great thing about asin is you can run it high and not crush your e2. But with that said, if your e2 comes back high then I'd suggest replacing it with letro until symptoms subside then adjust your dose or continue with adex instead. At 30mg ed of asin you should be in normal range. I've been telling guys for probably 2 years now that asin is a better option for on cycle and you can take an upwards dose of 50mg daily without any issues. HeavyIron just posted an article yesterday that backs up what I've been saying this whole time. The problem is very few people take the time to do any real research off of aas boards that are full of bro science and parroted bs. Also you should consider possibly increasing your caber dose. Does the lab work you got include prolactin or progestin?
    it will include prolactin

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    So what's the consensus on Nolva with NPP. I was under the impression that it could make prolactin based gyno worse(or cause it) when using a 19-nor, but let's say my Estro comes back high and my Prolactin is normal. Would Nolva be the best bet then?
    Obviously I'll need to up the dose of Aromasiin or start Adex to reduce the conversation of test to estro, but to treat the gyno immediately Nolva is the only thing I can think of, although I do have some Masteron Prop already which I believe is supposed to actually treat Gyno as well.

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    I always thought nolva upregulated progesterone receptors as well but no one around here seems to be too concerned about it. I guess it may just be bro science. I'll try to see if I can dig up a study.
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    The only time I ever had any slight gyno issues I was on adex .5mg/eod and I was recomended to go on nolva 20mg/day for 10 days with an increase in the dose of adex to 1mg/eod thereafter . It worked like a charm . I was on 600mg/wk of Npp a 19 nor at the time . I think nolva is a great emergency measure for estrogen .

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