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    Gyno Questions :(

    So I have some minor gyno. I did have very small lumps and there's definitely more 'fat' on my chest which makes it a lot softer looking than the rest of my body (obviously) and my nips are a bit pointy (which is what I hate the most). I think it was caused by Superdrol I ran last year but E2 is very well responsible for it too.

    I've been cruising on 250mg/week of WP's Test. E. for around a month now. About two weeks ago I started taking 2.5mg/day of AY's letro, 25mg/day of AY's nolva, and .5mg/day of Researchstops adex. I noticed a pretty good change in the first couple of days which is why I wrote I did have small lumps but they're mostly gone now. There is still a lot of fatty tissue though and my nips are still a bit pointy. Since then I haven't noticed much else of a change in appearance. I didn't have a drop in sex drive, or any other noticeable side effects like sore joints however. I went and had labs done today and it'll be interesting to see what the results are.



    I just started my cut cycle, it's:

    250mg/week Test E
    100mg/day Tren A
    50mg/day proviron
    I'll be adding 100mg/day anavar later on.



    I've read that the nolva will upregulate progesterone receptors in the breast tissue for about two weeks then after that it'll start to cause down regulation. Which means I should be safe to run nolva now with the tren.


    So what I'm trying to ask is how the hell can I get rid of this gyno without having to get surgery. I've already seen a surgeon and it'll cost me 6k to get it done and keep me out of the gym for a month. Should I keep running the nolva while I'm on cycle, or just wait until I'm done then run Nolva and try using letro again? Also what dosage would you recommend for the nolva. I've seen 20mg/day or 40mg/day recommended. Lastly, what are your thoughts on using raloxifene instead of nolva (I haven't done much research on it yet but will start)?
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    I read that masteron and Nolva was the most effective form of breast tissue control during breast cancer treatments. I might be incorrect but i believe this is the sole prescription use for masteron.

    are they pointing down


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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I read that masteron and Nolva was the most effective form of breast tissue control during breast cancer treatments. I might be incorrect but i believe this is the sole prescription use for masteron.

    are they pointing down

    I'm going to look like that red head in AG soon

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    And this can not be prolactin related gyno ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    I read that masteron and Nolva was the most effective form of breast tissue control during breast cancer treatments. I might be incorrect but i believe this is the sole prescription use for masteron.

    are they pointing down
    I've got gyno developing on Test, NPP, and Dbol... I just added Mast Prop since I had it here and figured any chance it helps is worth the try. I'l also be adding Nolva and Adex in a day or two.

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    Id run nolva or ralox on cycle and a low dose ai to manage my e2 levels as well. ie: stane and tamox or stane and ralox. Id take 20mg tamox or 30mg ralox.

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    Tren may be an issue on the E2 results.

    Nolva works best for gyno treatment. 10 mg twice daily for 3 months is what many docs prescribe. You could bump that dose a touch if you want.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NoviceAAS View Post
    And this can not be prolactin related gyno ?

    It is possible but I don't think it is. I need to start taking better notes on cycle so I can pinpoint exactly when stuff like this happens.



    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    Tren may be an issue on the E2 results.

    Nolva works best for gyno treatment. 10 mg twice daily for 3 months is what many docs prescribe. You could bump that dose a touch if you want.

    That cycle I ran last year was:

    1-12 100mg/day Test P
    1-4 30mg/day the orginal methadrol extreme (the stuff was amazing)
    5-12 50mg/day Tren Ace


    When I had labs done in the first 4 weeks my E2 came back around 350 and the reference range was <200. I was running 1mg/eod adex. I bumped it up to 1mg/ed after I seen the results. I then had labs done when I was on the tren and my E2 number came back at something like 1350.. The doctor was freaking out haha.




    Here's a newb question though, should I run the nolva while I'm on my current cycle or wait until I go cruising? I think it'll be fine while I'm on but I'm not a 100% certain so I'll take some advice on that.

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    Interesting...I have one bottle left of the original Methadrol and you don't see much feedback on the stuff. I have not run it myself but it almost sounds like it is the culprit here?

    Did you blow up quickly? Sorry no intent to derail your thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by need2lift View Post
    Interesting...I have one bottle left of the original Methadrol and you don't see much feedback on the stuff. I have not run it myself but it almost sounds like it is the culprit here?

    Did you blow up quickly? Sorry no intent to derail your thread!
    My weight went up ~15lbs in that month and I didn't look bloated at all. The strength gains were amazing too. It made me super lethargic though, I was running an ECA stack 3x a day to keep going.



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    The problem is blood work numbers for E2 get skewed by taking tren , if the testing company uses the Roche ECLA method you can automatically expect a high estro number. It just seems as if the one thing missing from your regimen is a prolactin inhibitor like caber. The thing about prolactin is you can pound it in to the dirt without any negative side effects, so it may be a worth while experiment to hammer the prolactin with some good caber before you start in with any nolva , letro or anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OfficerFarva View Post
    PS, wanna sell that bottle?
    Yes possibly. I will PM you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoviceAAS View Post
    The problem is blood work numbers for E2 get skewed by taking tren , if the testing company uses the Roche ECLA method you can automatically expect a high estro number. It just seems as if the one thing missing from your regimen is a prolactin inhibitor like caber. The thing about prolactin is you can pound it in to the dirt without any negative side effects, so it may be a worth while experiment to hammer the prolactin with some good caber before you start in with any nolva , letro or anything else.

    I have no idea what they use, it's all covered by my socialist state but I'm 99% sure that number is false. Yeah I'm running caber at .5mg e3d now, no more chancing things.

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    For now given that you are trying to sort something out Id suggest you go a little heavy on the caber. Never ever exceed 3 mg a week as it can cause heart valve damage , but .5 mg 3 or 4 times might be wise for a week or two to see how it goes.

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    350 holy geezus thats has gotta be the highest numbers I ever seen. I was 219 and my left nip got puffy. It seems I need to watch my dbol use. once I drop dbol Im good. I run labs usually 4 weeks in to make sure everything is on point before adding tren or deca

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    Yup but I wasn't running dbol and was using the green ladies adex. Oh well, I like cuddling these bad boys when I come home.

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    How did things workout with the Tamox for the gyno still running it?

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    I had some minor gyno from use of superdrol and it flared up again on cycle, I upped the arimidex and I used 20mg of nolva daily till the symptoms were gone. Took a little over one month of treatment and it went away. GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    Nolva works best for gyno treatment.
    In your opinion, better than Raloxifene?

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