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    bf issue on test prop/masteron

    First off sorry if this is in the wrong spot, new to the forum.

    I am running 1cc test 1cc mast eod for around 5 weeks now and my gains are great but im gaining in my stomach/oblique area.. seems like bloat but its aggrivating because my diet is on point and im doing slow paced cardio 4-5 days a week.

    any advice?

    Thanks in advance

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    1 cc of anything doesn't tell much. Prop, cyp? Test will bloat you no matter what. Mast is best at a low bf%. Change up your cardio. Maybe cut out some dairy. That always bloats me and of course when I consume too many carbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinyvegeta View Post
    1 cc of anything doesn't tell much. Prop, cyp? Test will bloat you no matter what. Mast is best at a low bf%. Change up your cardio. Maybe cut out some dairy. That always bloats me and of course when I consume too many carbs.
    Thanks for the reply... its test prop. I reduced my carbs about a week ago and currently not consuming any in meals after 5 (besides veggies).. I eat them lightly in my first 3 meals. Currently not eating or drinking dairy.. Anything else that can be causing this? or other ways to cut down bloat? Its only in my stomach/oblique area... everything else is growing but staying lean.

    Thank you!

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    Certain vegetables. Anything carbonated
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinyvegeta View Post
    Certain vegetables. Anything carbonated
    Asparagus and baby spinach

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    Is it intestinal bloating or fat accumulation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Puppy View Post
    Is it intestinal bloating or fat accumulation?
    Honestly I cant tell... i just know i shouldnt have this stomach.. it feels like bloat. Like i said my diet is clean and i do cardio so i cant possibly see body fat accumulation.

    Thanks man!

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    ^^ this. I'm in the same boat brother using test/mast just added tren this week. I have been eating very clean and around 2000 cals per day put on 10lbs in a month after starting gear and freaked out no way I should grow or put on fat at 2000cals. I started using OTC water pill occasionally and digestive enzymes helped quite a bit. I'm willing to bet its not fat gain but rather water retention and bloat as stated above. I usually lift for 1hr and do 20-30mins cardio after 5 days a week and the cardio helps keep that water retention down as well. I know how you feel I was cutting natty got down to 190 and now with adding gear back in I'm back up to 205lbs and looking soft in the midsection as well. Steady the course maybe post up your diet get some of the vets to help you tweek it. May need to change up cardio routine in order to see more results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtip1810 View Post
    ^^ this. I'm in the same boat brother using test/mast just added tren this week. I have been eating very clean and around 2000 cals per day put on 10lbs in a month after starting gear and freaked out no way I should grow or put on fat at 2000cals. I started using OTC water pill occasionally and digestive enzymes helped quite a bit. I'm willing to bet its not fat gain but rather water retention and bloat as stated above. I usually lift for 1hr and do 20-30mins cardio after 5 days a week and the cardio helps keep that water retention down as well. I know how you feel I was cutting natty got down to 190 and now with adding gear back in I'm back up to 205lbs and looking soft in the midsection as well. Steady the course maybe post up your diet get some of the vets to help you tweek it. May need to change up cardio routine in order to see more results.
    Thanks so much man very much appreciated! I am doing the exact same thing as far as work out and cardio! Ill post my diet.

    Thanks again!

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    So heres my diet... The chicken is sometimes substituted for tilapia, 2 cans of tuna (dry), or 93/7 lean ground beef with egg whites.

    1. Whey shake w/50g protein- w slices Ezekiel toast w/PB22. 6oz chicken w/salsa or mustard- green veggie (low/no carb like spinach or asparagus)- 2/3 cup oatmeal3. 6oz chix w/salsa/mustard- spinach/asparagus- 2 slices Ezekiel toast w/PB2 4/5. 6oz chix w/salsa/mustard-Asparagus/spinachPre-workout: 2 tbsp of honey or if im really sluggish i will have scoop of waxyPost Lift: 50g protein shake

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    Are you using an AI? have you gotten a blood test? how is your prop dosed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnyguy180 View Post
    Are you using an AI? have you gotten a blood test? how is your prop dosed?
    I have been reading into AI recently and im still not sure... I'd like to test the carb/cardio thing first and then thats my next step. I have not had any testing.. Pinning 1cc Prop 1cc of mast every other day.

    Thanks for your interest... Any info on AI You think i should know would be appreciated!

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    just for the record (if this helps) i am doing slow paced cardio.. either high speep walk on the tred or slow speed on incline.. might bump up to the stairs or stepper but all in all I dont see why I need all of this cardio on such a clean cut diet.. the weight gain in my stomach/oblique area is just making me crazy..

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    If you're eating broccoli / cauliflower / chard / etc. that can cause nasty bloat - digestive enzymes help. If you're gluten sensitive. try subbing your oats with yams.

    Else are you drinking enough water? What about the protein mix you're using? Have you used it before w/o any issues? Check if there's any dairy in your protein. Are you getting enough fiber? Maybe just get a cheap OTC fiber supplement and use that 2x/day.

    Otherwise it may just be your body adjusting to the diet if you've just started using it (i.e. restricted) - I've noticed that when I diet, sometimes I just flat out get bloated, try all the digestive enzymes. no gluten, etc. etc. etc. and it doesn't matter. But then it passes. Sort of like my body just had something it needed to figure out how to deal with and then figured it out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sassy69 View Post
    If you're eating broccoli / cauliflower / chard / etc. that can cause nasty bloat - digestive enzymes help. If you're gluten sensitive. try subbing your oats with yams.

    Else are you drinking enough water? What about the protein mix you're using? Have you used it before w/o any issues? Check if there's any dairy in your protein. Are you getting enough fiber? Maybe just get a cheap OTC fiber supplement and use that 2x/day.

    Otherwise it may just be your body adjusting to the diet if you've just started using it (i.e. restricted) - I've noticed that when I diet, sometimes I just flat out get bloated, try all the digestive enzymes. no gluten, etc. etc. etc. and it doesn't matter. But then it passes. Sort of like my body just had something it needed to figure out how to deal with and then figured it out.
    Thank you! very helpful information! I am drinking no less than a gallon a day... protein is a good point. I usually stick with ON 100% whey but i tried this newer brand recently.. ill look into it more. As far as veggies im always eating either spinach or asparagus.. I dumped the brocolli a while ago due to the bloating.. same with brussels. Your point about adjusting sounds about right.. I guess ill see what happens. Thanks again

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