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    Recommend a strong pre-workout supplement please.

    So I recently took Jack3d Micro. The first time I took it I will admit I felt some energy. Then the next time I took it not really all that much. Then the 3rd time I took 3 scoops and it felt stronger. Then yesterday I took 2.5 and felt ok. Then today I took 4 scoops and didn't really feel anything.

    I also have taken C4 Extreme.

    Overall experience has been really weak with these preworkouts. I feel like they are just a waste of money. I would be more wired if I took 3 or 4 glasses of espresso to be honest with you guys.

    Is there anything you can take that would really make a difference? Also Pump wise I really am disappointed. I notice some nice things but I think that even if I didn't take these I would still see my muscles get big during workouts since I am working until failure with each exercise.

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    I use Max pump extreme stacked with Nitro4. The pumps are sick.

    I have noticed if I avoid caffeine for 4-5 hours prior to the pre training mixes I get a better boost.

    http://www.ironmaglabs.com/product-list/maximum-pump/

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    I use Max pump extreme stacked with Nitro4. The pumps are sick.

    I have noticed if I avoid caffeine for 4-5 hours prior to the pre training mixes I get a better boost.

    http://www.ironmaglabs.com/product-list/maximum-pump/

    http://www.ironmaglabs.com/product-list/nitro4/
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    Max pump is a clean product. No chalky taste with the benefits of a pre and pump
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    If you really want a good pre, try, Test Base 50mg/Tren Base 50mg..

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    I've been around for some time and love my pwo's especially the stronger ones. That being said so many changes with them bc of having to reformulate. This is the best i've touched in years and is very strong. Not to expensive either with insane pumps. http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/g...-servings.html

    Quote Originally Posted by LivingtoLearn View Post
    So I recently took Jack3d Micro. The first time I took it I will admit I felt some energy. Then the next time I took it not really all that much. Then the 3rd time I took 3 scoops and it felt stronger. Then yesterday I took 2.5 and felt ok. Then today I took 4 scoops and didn't really feel anything.

    I also have taken C4 Extreme.

    Overall experience has been really weak with these preworkouts. I feel like they are just a waste of money. I would be more wired if I took 3 or 4 glasses of espresso to be honest with you guys.

    Is there anything you can take that would really make a difference? Also Pump wise I really am disappointed. I notice some nice things but I think that even if I didn't take these I would still see my muscles get big during workouts since I am working until failure with each exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packers6211 View Post
    I've been around for some time and love my pwo's especially the stronger ones. That being said so many changes with them bc of having to reformulate. This is the best i've touched in years and is very strong. Not to expensive either with insane pumps. http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/g...-servings.html
    will be giving it a shot soon

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    I had good results with Muscle Pharm Assault. I did like the old formula better than the newer one. Many said C4 was better, so if you don't care for C4, Assault might be a waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunco402 View Post
    I had good results with Muscle Pharm Assault. I did like the old formula better than the newer one. Many said C4 was better, so if you don't care for C4, Assault might be a waste.
    C4 is the best one I have tried so far. Jack3d Micro is not very good in my opinion.

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    I personally like Jack3d and the Maximum Pump Extreme by Ironmaglabs

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