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    54, male, 6'2" 205#, general health good, blood work etc good. Played ball etc. Life hit, divorce etc I hit 300#.. Heavy when young, leaned towards bitch-tit so thats one concern now. Starting to lift slow, etc; experienced on that end. Issue 54 & needed kick. My blood work was normal T but normal wont cut it! Buddy has me on 15mg Dball and 20mg Azolol (claims it will help w/bitch tit concern). Right stack? Best dosing process or other advice? 9 days in, peanuts is all I'm seeing to date. Tried to give enough info? Little lost on site but got some help. Thanks

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    I can't speak on either of the two you listed, never tried them. But I can recommend the IML Super DMZ 3.0 stack if you are going to do an all oral cycle. I'm close to starting a second cycle. It worked incredibly well. I made great gains in working weight and in the mirror. None of the ingredients aromatize. If you follow the stack they recommend you should be completely covered.

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    Thanks for feedback YOrkbarbell, I get aromitize as chemical conversion. Are you stating the estrogen (b-tit) issue wont be of concern?

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    yes, that is correct.

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    Thanks for feedback YOrkbarbell, I get aromitize as chemical conversion. Are you stating the estrogen (b-tit) issue wont be of concern? Many argue these made it worse? Good read & lead will consider.

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    Never heard of Azolol and Dbol will probably give you some water retention. Some guys run a Dbol only cycle, but youd be far better off running a test only cycle and keeping your estro under control.

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    Noboveaas- thanks for response, can you better explain. Are you saying a cycle of Dbol only? Buds advised winny would cut risks of estrogen and stay at 15mg D and 20mg winny. No direction on dosing but half cycles are short so I assume splitting intake time up is best?

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    Post up your diet, thats your first priority. Also stop the dbol asap, not a good choice.
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    Big Moe- thanks for response & ur time. 1. Given reativly low Dboll I figured I could reduce by 50% over 2days & end it? Or can I just stop? 2. Diet:balanced, more protien directed last 3weeks. Eggs, yogurt, granola, mixed fruit, cottage cheese, peanut butter & honey on qaulity multi-grain bread w/honey, tuna, silk-milk, powerade/water a lot! Frozen mixed veggies w/cheese. Sorry no numerical content % but I keep it simple & mix & match these basics. Minor junk on mood swings, 90% solid of above combinations. *i've not been in the gym enough, one reason I think this stack or Dboll has drained my drive bad? As I researched AZOLOL it made more sense. Played football 6yrs know lifting & reality I need to get basic strength built by group etc. Advise on winny please, I was understanding it can help cut fat & help "rebuild" I felt Dboll was too soon & do believe it has me lathargic; thus reaching out. Thanks!
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    BigMoe & all- yea hammer me I'm that 100-1000th asking afterwards & listening to bad resources! But today, too many resources so hang with the old man. I now don't believe I have Gyno issues, was on my way but my concern is 'palm sized' sagging breast/pec are, vs lump etc as I've read described. As stated & some bonus points back I lost 100lbs. Now at 54yrs old needing that safe kick? I stopped Dboll & winny yesterday. I had lost drive to do anything, assumption low-noT in me? So, letro seems to be correct answer & time driven for BT concern I need to decide if its worth it. I feel no lumps behind nips, given fatboy issue since birth thinking I'm just prone to fatty tissue there??! My expert" is saying stay on winny oral 5mg/4X day for boost and cutting of fat as I rebuild? Appreciate ur long read & feedback, dumb is dumb but wisdom stops & seeks advise! And how about this 1"-2" of stomach skin from those extra 100lbs I shed? Will it come around, big was pushed in HS football, fat was fine for the line!
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