I usually go deca/test/dbol kicker... I start eating like a bull about month prior to running and see how gains are when I start, and to expand my stomach... So far three pounds up since 4 days ago which surprised me. Running OP dbol 40mg ed, deca 300 wk, test e 600 wk and an ai... Be sure to eat eat eat. even to the point you wanna throw up. Then you will see huge gains!