I need to stop failing

Results 1 to 11 of 11

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Registered User
    xenomorph8472's Avatar


    Join Date
    May 2014
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Aurora, Indiana, United States
    Posts
    43
    Rep Points
    2735029

    I need to stop failing

    I've been back into westside conjugate training for 2 months now, after 4 months of progressive training. What I miss about progressive is the mental aspect of knowing what weight I had to hit on the exact same movement I did a couple of days before. I could zone in for days, each plate I shoveled away, each hard pull at the water bottle, each extra hour of sleep I could get was there to add 5 pounds to my next 3-5RM.

    2 months into conjugate, I finding myself missing ME lifts almost every session, and the toll on my nervous system is getting bad. Last night I woke up every 30 minutes all night, after missing two attempts on raw max effort squats against chains earlier in the day, and I'm pretty much in a daze today. I set a decent PR on the prior set that I made before the miss, but still, I failed on an extra 10 pounds. A week prior, I missed a max squat triple.

    How the hell am I supposed to keep track of what weight I can expect to be hitting, when I literally haven't done the movement in months? Sometimes its in gear, sometimes it's raw. Total motor pattern confusion.

  2. #2
    Registered User
    raysd21's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Somewhere eating
    Posts
    1,324
    Rep Points
    220195615

    I thought this was going to be some Living to Learn type deal....

  3. #3
    Registered User
    ctr10's Avatar


    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    pa
    Posts
    2,253
    Rep Points
    1215243134

    sounds like he's going over the deep end

  4. #4
    Moderator
    MODERATOR
    ckcrown84's Avatar


    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA, OH
    Posts
    2,689
    Rep Points
    122249312

    Try recording your lifts,
    this way you can scroll back on your youtube channel and see what you did last time you performed that lift.

  5. #5
    Registered User
    xenomorph8472's Avatar


    Join Date
    May 2014
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Aurora, Indiana, United States
    Posts
    43
    Rep Points
    2735029

    Possibly ill have to run the routines long enough to actually do them a couple of times before i can "get smart" about the variations

    Sent from my C525c using Tapatalk

  6. #6
    Moderator
    MODERATOR
    Usealittle's Avatar


    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,035
    Rep Points
    31038720

    I know this thread is old but.

    Westside is not the end all be all... Try other things, braindan Lilly used it for years and not does not why? Cuz of the same thing that happening to you. You need to modify it to suit your needs. On paper all the heavy heavy looks good but there comes a point where it just doin what your told dont work... WS training is a tinplate not the rule.

    iv used Chinese for my shoulders and liked what I was seeing/getting from it. With that method you are workin to today's potential not what the math says you should...
    http://www.blacklionresearch.com/
    hate it or love it....

  7. #7
    Moderator
    MODERATOR
    ckcrown84's Avatar


    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA, OH
    Posts
    2,689
    Rep Points
    122249312

    Quote Originally Posted by Usealittle View Post
    I know this thread is old but.

    Westside is not the end all be all... Try other things, braindan Lilly used it for years and not does not why? Cuz of the same thing that happening to you. You need to modify it to suit your needs. On paper all the heavy heavy looks good but there comes a point where it just doin what your told dont work... WS training is a tinplate not the rule.

    iv used Chinese for my shoulders and liked what I was seeing/getting from it. With that method you are workin to today's potential not what the math says you should...
    Yeah but the programming our gym uses is west side based

  8. #8
    Moderator
    MODERATOR
    Usealittle's Avatar


    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,035
    Rep Points
    31038720

    Yes, "based" is the operative word. You use it as a "base" and make changes to suit you from there.
    http://www.blacklionresearch.com/
    hate it or love it....

  9. #9
    Moderator
    MODERATOR
    ckcrown84's Avatar


    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA, OH
    Posts
    2,689
    Rep Points
    122249312

    Quote Originally Posted by Usealittle View Post
    Yes, "based" is the operative word. You use it as a "base" and make changes to suit you from there.
    Well my changes are going splendidly

    He will come along he hasn't even been training six months straight yet

  10. #10
    Moderator
    MODERATOR
    Usealittle's Avatar


    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,035
    Rep Points
    31038720

    Cool, as long as things are goin in the right direction... How's your training comin?


    after my ankle is healed I might think about traing for another PL comp... Don't know when but thinkin about it.
    http://www.blacklionresearch.com/
    hate it or love it....

  11. #11
    Moderator
    MODERATOR
    ckcrown84's Avatar


    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    USA, OH
    Posts
    2,689
    Rep Points
    122249312

    Quote Originally Posted by Usealittle View Post
    Cool, as long as things are goin in the right direction... How's your training comin?


    after my ankle is healed I might think about traing for another PL comp... Don't know when but thinkin about it.
    My training is going really well.

    My squat is steady rising.
    My bench I think hit rock bottom but my new training cycle started and if I stay on my diet it should pay off... Lots of volume.
    My deadlift has been a problem child for quite a bit... So we are abandoning ship on conventional and moving to sumo. I have been doing a boat load of glute work

    The big issue is my glutes don't fire properly when I pull, judging how sore I been lately I thinking my glutes are learning

Similar Threads

  1. wtf... grip failing on..SIDEBENDS????
    By danny81 in forum Training
    Replies: 59
    Last Post: 04-19-2008, 12:44 PM
  2. Grip Strength Failing??
    By BulkBoy in forum Training
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 02-27-2007, 06:29 PM
  3. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-13-2005, 06:16 PM
  4. Ouch!!! Failing Bench
    By BritChick in forum Open Chat
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 04-24-2005, 02:22 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
-->