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    Tren/test cycle opinion

    Ok so i have seen it asked in many threads on many occasions but would like everyones opinion and experienced answer on this.. Do you prefer to run High Tren- Low Test or High Test- Low Tren cycles and why? I will make this a stickie in our sub forum for future reference..
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    Any thoughts?
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    My next cycle will be prop/ ace. Done a ton of research and will go with a trt dose of prop with 300-400 mgs tren ace a week.

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    Right now, I'm in 3-4 weeks, 250 test c / 500 tren e per week... My first time running it like this. I've always done higher test... I think it's working about the same except for I'm not having night sweats as bad, sleep better than before, no shortness of breath yet, well... Basically, all the sides I don't like about tren are not present. I'll do it this way from here on


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    I've always used higher test than tren. thankfully I'll be using some lunesta and xanax to help out with any insomnia issues I may experience during my upcoming cycle.

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    Tren usually higher than test. When I want to get that thick brick shithouse look, I usually run 3G test a week with no tren. When I add tren, sometimes it will be a 2g to 2g ratio, seems to be good at still keeping that thick look, brings veins out etc. When getting all shredded, I'll usually do 2-3G of tren and play with the test dosage. I haven't done that in a while tho bc with the 2x a day training and 20 mins cardio, I can still stay pretty lean while eating my captain crunch before bed lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by SFW View Post
    I've always used higher test than tren. thankfully I'll be using some lunesta and xanax to help out with any insomnia issues I may experience during my upcoming cycle.
    Have you ever tried the opposite?
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    cujo, at such high doses the sides must be intense..what is your normal protocol for Ai dosing?
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    I run tren higher than test also


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansir39 View Post
    cujo, at such high doses the sides must be intense..what is your normal protocol for Ai dosing?
    In terms of an AI, I actually didnt use one till recently. I dont have any gyno issues but that obviously doesnt mean that bloods would suggest other issues. I started taking 25mg of Exemstane everyday just to kill the bloat. It actually was hindering my ability to eat and stretch after workouts. I never tried anything other than Exemstane simply because my lipids probably already take a beating and the idea of Adex lowering IGF-1 is unappealing

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    Quote Originally Posted by cujo View Post
    In terms of an AI, I actually didnt use one till recently. I dont have any gyno issues but that obviously doesnt mean that bloods would suggest other issues. I started taking 25mg of Exemstane everyday just to kill the bloat. It actually was hindering my ability to eat and stretch after workouts. I never tried anything other than Exemstane simply because my lipids probably already take a beating and the idea of Adex lowering IGF-1 is unappealing
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    Heavy what's your thoughts on exemstane vs adex? Curious as to what you think
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    I have always ran exemestane I have a bottle of adex but never ran it. I got great advice early on to run exemestane and never switched. It works for me which I have never even had any signs of gyno but I can tell if I skip AI for awhile.


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    Examestane > adex


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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyB View Post
    Too high bro run 12.5mg ED research chem that is enough...
    I am currently on 2.5 grams of test and 1.5 of tren. Hard to find that optimal spot to reduce bloat and keep enough estro for gains


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    I maybe a little higher I am also running a gram of npp a week. But I am running tren e and tren a


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    both tren a and tren e Heavy? may i ask why? In the 16+ years of cycling different compounds this is the first "real" tren cycle for me..I have dabbled in it before but never liked to pin ED so always dropped it after couple weeks..So i am very curious to your thoughts on running both.. and i have only used Adex..maybe its time to switch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansir39 View Post
    both tren a and tren e Heavy? may i ask why? In the 16+ years of cycling different compounds this is the first "real" tren cycle for me..I have dabbled in it before but never liked to pin ED so always dropped it after couple weeks..So i am very curious to your thoughts on running both.. and i have only used Adex..maybe its time to switch
    The compounds are basicly the same with the half life of ace being shorter it will clear out your system quicker than E. You should not have to pin E as often but I pin daily anyhow with this cycle.
    You could pin E 200mg on Monday and Thursday and get the same as pinning ace ED at 50mg. Just really depends on your BF and how much lean bulking you want to do.
    Currently 50mg of ace and 100mg of E I will got to 100mg of ace when my E is gone. I really only get one side that is the cough and I know when it fixing to happen if i go super slow on injection i dont get it.
    Now why am I doing both at the same time is the number one question... Might be cause I am a little crazy or because I didnt have enough E to run a complete 18 weeks.. Really both I had it and only 2 vials of E so I figured what the hell throw it in get long and short in the first of the cycle. I am doing the same with npp and deca. Running some of your guys npp and I have to say I like it being 125mg or instead of the 100mg of most sponsers. I would love to try out your guys Tren E but I got to wait to get some $$
    I cant tell you with my current cycle I have got amazing results I do have my diet right and working my ass off in the gym and my other sports outlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melochai View Post
    Examestane > adex


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    Ugh, my bad. I read your > as an =.

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    Heavy I can tell you are just a lil crazy .lol.. I think maybe I need to slow down on the injection speed.. Maybe I pushed little too fast. Makes sense.. NPP next on my list
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyB View Post
    Too high bro run 12.5mg ED research chem that is enough...
    I think I may try this. With this test, tren, m1t, mtr and hgh stack, I really want to make the most of it. I have been using superiors exemstane


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    Always low test ..higher tren. Everything ive read says tren n test compete for same androgen receptors. If you run higher test, it will minimize the effects of the Tren.

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    Most say 2:1 not to exceed 1:1 I think really depends on your body and how the gear reacts.


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    People will do what works for them and yields them the results theyre looking for. Ive read people doing 1:1 for short estered run is ok, but on long esters between 2:1 & 3:1 is ideal. Again..if ur test is too high, it can have a minizing effect on the tren. I prefer about 3:1 myself. This also ensures that I minimize water retention from the Test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyB View Post
    I think really depends on your body and how the gear reacts.


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