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    What is best for gaining mass?

    What is better for gaining mass

    Split workout or up/lw workout?


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    Squats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post
    Squats.
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    Heavy compound movements off gear. Lighter weight higher reps on gear. That's one theory anyway.

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    Splitting helps insure all workouts are good.

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    Are you enhanced?? Progressive overload is key, even if using gear. People don't realize part of the gains acquired while on are due to the massive strength increase. A non user can't do volume AND have progressive overload, so they sacrifice some volume and increase frequency to be able to progress. A user can use tons of volume AND STILL GAIN STRENGTH, which results in big size gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machmood View Post
    Are you enhanced?? Progressive overload is key, even if using gear. People don't realize part of the gains acquired while on are due to the massive strength increase. A non user can't do volume AND have progressive overload, so they sacrifice some volume and increase frequency to be able to progress. A user can use tons of volume AND STILL GAIN STRENGTH, which results in big size gains
    Im not sure I understood you here. Would you mind re-phrasing it? Not trying to be weird or a dick or anything, I just didn't quite follow what exactly you meant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayjay1 View Post
    Im not sure I understood you here. Would you mind re-phrasing it? Not trying to be weird or a dick or anything, I just didn't quite follow what exactly you meant
    simply put AAS makes you stronger so you get bigger. What I was saying above is natural lifters can't lift with tons of volume and get progressively stronger. Tney have to sacrifice volume. When someone juices tney don't have to sacrifice anythig. They will get stronger no matter what they do. So it makes sense to do crazy volume, your getting stimulus from volume AND your getting stronger. A natural lifter is always sacrificing something to improve on something else

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    Consistent diet an a few weekly cheat meals,but not over board

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    Volume is a much less relevant requisite to getting stronger then sheer progressive overload. Volume builds muscle.

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    There are 2 types of hypertrophy as far we know ; 1. Sarcoplasmic 2. Myofribril. Sarcoplasmic basically occurs due to volume training as the muscles store more nutrients and fluid within the muscle cell(i.e. Sarcoplasm. This is common in body building type training. And it's actually not all that necessary to get stronger. It's actually time under tension that's a major contributing factor. Although lifting heavier weight, overtime, with the same TUT equals a higher volume. So it does contribute for sure. But increasing 1-5 rm actually will use a completely different energy pathway and the muscle fibers will actually thicken to meet the demands of progressive overload. The nervous system actually gets more efficient by stimulating new motor units(nerves and the musle fiber it innervates) allowing the muscle to contract harder because of the increase in motor unit recruitment. The size that is gained from this is no where near what can be gained through volume training because there are different muscle types of muscle fibers. Some get strong and thick others get big and bulky without increasing their ability to contract with additional force.
    I hope I didn't say too much but this stuff is very interesting to me and I like to share what I've learned. I'm also open to learning is anyone had anything that may contradict my statements.

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    Great advice bro!

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