I found this information on the web, saw several posts regarding it. I have NO IDEA regarding it's validity, simply passing it on.
Below is the source URL, and below that is the pertinant text.
Just FYI
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/archive/2/2002/02/2/83558
"I believe you got the idea from me, but my way is a bit different. I use component TH because it has less methylcellulose in it, which is the absolutely harmless binder used to hold the pills together. I also use vegetable oil because many people are allergic to sesame seed oil and I'm not sure if I'm one, but if I was then injecting it would surely put me in the hospital. Anyways here's my method which has worked great with never a problem!!
1) Figure out how strong you want each injection. I've done from 80 to 200mgs eod! We'll aim for making 10 injections of 100 mgs a piece. Push out 50 pills into a straw, bend the ends over and crush with a spoon. Dump your powder into a sterilized 30ml bottle.
2) You are aiming for a total solution of 20mls. 10 injections of 2ccs of 100mgs per 2ccs!! Suck up 5 cc's of everclear with a syringe and squirt in bottle. Put cap on. Take a small glass with a little water in it and microwave until hot then put the bottle in it for a few minutes. This will disolve anyleft over chunks of component in the bottle. Take bottle out and set on counter.
3) Take a small, clean pot and pour some vegetable oil in it. I usually heat it at 6 for about 10 min. Careful, do not even get a drop of water into the hot oil or it will explode! Turn off burner and let it sit for awhile, till it's not too hot to work with.
4) Suck up 15mls of oil in syringe and shoot it in the bottle of everclear and component TH. Shake up then draw out 2 ccs and you are ready to inject! Next I take a mason jar that is clean and I put my 30ml bottle in it for storage!
One thing I always do is everytime I inject I'll heat some water in a glass and put the bottle in it for a bit. This makes it easier to draw and shoot and usually in the bottle there is two distinct layers, but when it is heated and shook, it becomes just one. I mean you wouldn't just want to inject the oil or just the everclear and component would you.
I did this because I couldn't get a kit at first and it's worked great. Two cycles complete and never a problem except it can be painful once in awhile. I've gained 30 lbs while at the same time becoming too strong for my joints. Really!! Anyways I hope this helps and please no flames! It works it's easy and I know what I'm getting! I'll trust myself before I'll trust a magic solution!!"
or the other:
"Two cycles ago, I was recommended a method to prep the Fina tablets for injection without the kits since I was too impatient to wait for it (If I remembered who he was, I'd give him credit). I found it to be flawed but I perfected it on my own and I have come to firmly believe that the kit is bullshit and my method is both more convenient, easier to get an accurate dosage, and just plain more fun! I've never had a problem with clogging, infection, or anything else that may be associated with glues, dyes and such.
For my method you will need the following items:
-Everclear alcohol (found at any liquor store)
-Sesame Seed oil (found at some gnc's, supermarkets, health food stores, or chinese restaurants)
-One toothpick
-One Straw
-Some adhesive tape
-A spoon
-A cart of Fina
-Access to an oven and microwave
-Two shotglasses
-A box of 22-23g syringes and needles (I recommend buying syringes and needles seperately as you will soon see)
-A medium sized pot
Step 1 - Begin by using the toothpick to poke the Fina tabs from the top out the bottom. Since they are equal to 20mg per tablet, you can prepare one shot with as much fina in it as you wish. For the sake of this thread, I will use 80mg (4 fina tabs).
Step 2 - Take your straw and seal off one end by folding it and taping it closed. Seal it well so you it won't allow fina to get stuck in the creavices. Throw the tabs in the open end of the straw and fold over the other end leaving about 2.5 inches to crush the pellets between each end. Make a nice powder. The more it's crushed, the easier Step 4 will be.
Step 3 - Open up a new syringe and pull out the plunger. Pour the crushed fina pellets into the syringe from the straw and place the plunger back on. Place a needle (if it isn't already on) on the syringe and pull enough Everclear alcohol to cover the powder and no more. Don't worry--If you put too much, it will hurt when you inject but it won't ruin the shot at all. If you are using 80mg, the alcohol should come up to the first line on the syringe.
Step 4 - Put the pot filled with water on the stove and heat till it's hot but not boiling. When the water is ready, hold the syringe with the fina/everclear solution by the capped needle and stir the entire syringe in the water so it will heat up and dissolve. The mix should turn from cloudy yellow to cloudy brown.
Step 5 - put some sesame seed oil in the shotglass and microwave it for about a minute till it's very hot, to disinfect. Uncap your syringe with fina/everclear and pull 1 cc of sesame seed oil.
Step 6 - Pull another half cc or so of air just to leave space between the top and the fina. Take off the needle and place the syringe, plunger down, in the clean shotglass so it won't fall over. Put this in the microwave and nuke for about 30-60 seconds till it bubbles.
Step 7 - Now you have two choices. You can either wait for it too cool off before using a new needle and injecting or storing it and making more so you have them ready to use when it's time to inject. If you store them away, store them with a capped needle in a dark place and get rid of that extra space in the needle. When it's time to inject after storage, start from step 6 and right before you inject, flick the syringe a few times to disperse the fina around. This will make sure you inject it all and none is left in the needle or stuck to the rubber stopper on the plunger.
This is my 2nd cycle (12 weeks total EOD) using this method and I'm quite happy with how it works. Plus it makes me feel like Julia Childs! I know there will be flames but I really think the kit is overkill and people are just paranoid. Glues and dies are not to be worried over. Thank you. Comments and questions are welcome!"
Below is the source URL, and below that is the pertinant text.
Just FYI
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/archive/2/2002/02/2/83558
"I believe you got the idea from me, but my way is a bit different. I use component TH because it has less methylcellulose in it, which is the absolutely harmless binder used to hold the pills together. I also use vegetable oil because many people are allergic to sesame seed oil and I'm not sure if I'm one, but if I was then injecting it would surely put me in the hospital. Anyways here's my method which has worked great with never a problem!!
1) Figure out how strong you want each injection. I've done from 80 to 200mgs eod! We'll aim for making 10 injections of 100 mgs a piece. Push out 50 pills into a straw, bend the ends over and crush with a spoon. Dump your powder into a sterilized 30ml bottle.
2) You are aiming for a total solution of 20mls. 10 injections of 2ccs of 100mgs per 2ccs!! Suck up 5 cc's of everclear with a syringe and squirt in bottle. Put cap on. Take a small glass with a little water in it and microwave until hot then put the bottle in it for a few minutes. This will disolve anyleft over chunks of component in the bottle. Take bottle out and set on counter.
3) Take a small, clean pot and pour some vegetable oil in it. I usually heat it at 6 for about 10 min. Careful, do not even get a drop of water into the hot oil or it will explode! Turn off burner and let it sit for awhile, till it's not too hot to work with.
4) Suck up 15mls of oil in syringe and shoot it in the bottle of everclear and component TH. Shake up then draw out 2 ccs and you are ready to inject! Next I take a mason jar that is clean and I put my 30ml bottle in it for storage!
One thing I always do is everytime I inject I'll heat some water in a glass and put the bottle in it for a bit. This makes it easier to draw and shoot and usually in the bottle there is two distinct layers, but when it is heated and shook, it becomes just one. I mean you wouldn't just want to inject the oil or just the everclear and component would you.
I did this because I couldn't get a kit at first and it's worked great. Two cycles complete and never a problem except it can be painful once in awhile. I've gained 30 lbs while at the same time becoming too strong for my joints. Really!! Anyways I hope this helps and please no flames! It works it's easy and I know what I'm getting! I'll trust myself before I'll trust a magic solution!!"
or the other:
"Two cycles ago, I was recommended a method to prep the Fina tablets for injection without the kits since I was too impatient to wait for it (If I remembered who he was, I'd give him credit). I found it to be flawed but I perfected it on my own and I have come to firmly believe that the kit is bullshit and my method is both more convenient, easier to get an accurate dosage, and just plain more fun! I've never had a problem with clogging, infection, or anything else that may be associated with glues, dyes and such.
For my method you will need the following items:
-Everclear alcohol (found at any liquor store)
-Sesame Seed oil (found at some gnc's, supermarkets, health food stores, or chinese restaurants)
-One toothpick
-One Straw
-Some adhesive tape
-A spoon
-A cart of Fina
-Access to an oven and microwave
-Two shotglasses
-A box of 22-23g syringes and needles (I recommend buying syringes and needles seperately as you will soon see)
-A medium sized pot
Step 1 - Begin by using the toothpick to poke the Fina tabs from the top out the bottom. Since they are equal to 20mg per tablet, you can prepare one shot with as much fina in it as you wish. For the sake of this thread, I will use 80mg (4 fina tabs).
Step 2 - Take your straw and seal off one end by folding it and taping it closed. Seal it well so you it won't allow fina to get stuck in the creavices. Throw the tabs in the open end of the straw and fold over the other end leaving about 2.5 inches to crush the pellets between each end. Make a nice powder. The more it's crushed, the easier Step 4 will be.
Step 3 - Open up a new syringe and pull out the plunger. Pour the crushed fina pellets into the syringe from the straw and place the plunger back on. Place a needle (if it isn't already on) on the syringe and pull enough Everclear alcohol to cover the powder and no more. Don't worry--If you put too much, it will hurt when you inject but it won't ruin the shot at all. If you are using 80mg, the alcohol should come up to the first line on the syringe.
Step 4 - Put the pot filled with water on the stove and heat till it's hot but not boiling. When the water is ready, hold the syringe with the fina/everclear solution by the capped needle and stir the entire syringe in the water so it will heat up and dissolve. The mix should turn from cloudy yellow to cloudy brown.
Step 5 - put some sesame seed oil in the shotglass and microwave it for about a minute till it's very hot, to disinfect. Uncap your syringe with fina/everclear and pull 1 cc of sesame seed oil.
Step 6 - Pull another half cc or so of air just to leave space between the top and the fina. Take off the needle and place the syringe, plunger down, in the clean shotglass so it won't fall over. Put this in the microwave and nuke for about 30-60 seconds till it bubbles.
Step 7 - Now you have two choices. You can either wait for it too cool off before using a new needle and injecting or storing it and making more so you have them ready to use when it's time to inject. If you store them away, store them with a capped needle in a dark place and get rid of that extra space in the needle. When it's time to inject after storage, start from step 6 and right before you inject, flick the syringe a few times to disperse the fina around. This will make sure you inject it all and none is left in the needle or stuck to the rubber stopper on the plunger.
This is my 2nd cycle (12 weeks total EOD) using this method and I'm quite happy with how it works. Plus it makes me feel like Julia Childs! I know there will be flames but I really think the kit is overkill and people are just paranoid. Glues and dies are not to be worried over. Thank you. Comments and questions are welcome!"
Sounds like the hillbilly version of fina convertin' to me. After my experience with Everclear(jet fuel) in my younger days, I'll pass. I'll stick with the kits thank you. But crushin' pellets in the straw does work pretty good. But that kitless version is just looking for trouble. If that moron is having trouble with accurate dosages, he need to take some math and figure out how much oil gets displaced by the pellets. It's not hard.