Mueller's targets share a problem: They lie , all trump's people are liars

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    Mueller's targets share a problem: They lie , all trump's people are liars




    WASHINGTON After lying to the Internal Revenue Service to avoid paying taxes and lying to banks to obtain fraudulent mortgages, Paul Manafort was convicted last August and then pledged to tell the truth as part of a plea deal to avert a second trial.

    But prosecutors say Manafort, President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, lied about that too and they told a federal judge Friday that they may file new charges against him. A day earlier, Trump's longtime lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about seeking a Moscow real estate deal.

    "It's like an organized crime consortium where everyone is lying and obfuscating, except it's an investigation of the president of the United States and his campaign."
    At the center of the drama is Trump, who has exhausted independent fact checkers with a blizzard of falsehoods. The Washington Post says he has made more than 6,400 false or misleading statements publicly since taking office and averaged 30 a day in the weeks before last month's midterm elections.

    Moreover, Trump has cheered witnesses who resist cooperating with the special counsel's office, and he accused prosecutors on Mueller's team of encouraging Manafort and other suspects to lie.

    George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was the first to go down. He pleaded guilty in October 2017 to lying to FBI agents about his conversations with a Maltese professor who told him that Russians had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton that included "thousands of emails." Papadopoulos entered prison last Monday to serve a two-week term.

    In December 2017, Michael Flynn, Trump's former national security adviser, pleaded guilty to falsely denying that he'd discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador during the presidential transition. He agreed to cooperate with Mueller's team, and his sentencing is scheduled for Dec. 18.

    Richard Gates, Trump's deputy campaign chairman, pleaded guilty in February 2018 to lying about a meeting he attended while working for Ukraine's pro-Russian government. As part of his plea deal, he testified against Manafort and is awaiting sentencing.

    Alex van der Zwaan, a formerly London-based Dutch lawyer who worked with Gates and Manafort, also pleaded guilty that month to lying about his communications with a suspected Russian agent.

    Despite his prosecutions, Mueller has struggled to stem the tide of lies. Among his apparent targets is Jerome Corsi, the far-right writer previously best known for spreading the falsehood that President Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States.

    "This many liars is unusual," said Barbara McQuade, a former U.S. attorney in Michigan. "This group seems particularly persistent."




    and that's just for starters,,

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    it's going to be hilarious when pardons them.

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    one liar helps another liar = the republican way #SAD

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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    one liar helps another liar = the republican way #SAD
    the democrats are so honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    the democrats are so honest.
    I've never heard a liar like trump before, he's making the dems seem honest.. & after bill Clinton that's tough,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    it's going to be hilarious when pardons them.
    "Special counsel Robert Mueller's plea agreement with Paul Manafort on Friday took unusual and possibly unprecedented steps to undercut President Donald Trump's ability to pardon his former campaign chairman. The plea deal Mueller struck with Manafort contains several provisions that appear intended to discourage the former Trump aide from seeking a pardon and to rein in the impact of any pardon Trump might grant."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    the democrats are so honest.
    I would pay to see both Trump and Hillary hooked up to a lie detector that would zap their ass when they lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
    "Special counsel Robert Mueller's plea agreement with Paul Manafort on Friday took unusual and possibly unprecedented steps to undercut President Donald Trump's ability to pardon his former campaign chairman. The plea deal Mueller struck with Manafort contains several provisions that appear intended to discourage the former Trump aide from seeking a pardon and to rein in the impact of any pardon Trump might grant."
    I know and Trump is getting impeached, been hearing that for almost 2 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    I know and Trump is getting impeached, been hearing that for almost 2 years now.
    I don't think anything at all is going to come of any of it. I think it'd be hilarious if we knew all the dirt on the people trying to expose other people's dirt in politics. Complete shit show. The pardon proof shit is funny though. They better remember whatever they do can be done to them too. To me, it seems like the worst they are doing is disturbing his peace of mind.

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    Trump is as likely to end up in jail as Hillary. Maybe they both deserve it but we will never see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
    Trump is as likely to end up in jail as Hillary. Maybe they both deserve it but we will never see it.
    We know all of Hilary's crimes as secretary of state, but not sure I know of Trump doing anything illegal while in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
    Trump is as likely to end up in jail as Hillary. Maybe they both deserve it but we will never see it.


    ,, trumpy is Rob's 'Achilles heel',, he could never see his boy 'trumpski' as guilty of anything, but you're right, neither will end up in jail.. #SAD

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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    ,, trumpy is Rob's 'Achilles heel',, he could never see his boy 'trumpski' as guilty of anything, but you're right, neither will end up in jail.. #SAD
    I really think your brain is permanently damaged from drug use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    We know all of Hilary's crimes as secretary of state, but not sure I know of Trump doing anything illegal while in office.
    They are trying to say a recent tweet is federal witness tampering but it won't come to anything either. https://www.lawfareblog.com/donald-t...ness-tampering

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