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I read this on another forum... clearly it's not from a scientist... but i think from everything i gathered reading about every study I could find on glutamine, this sums up what I have put together:

"The studies showing that glutamine is useful were almost all done on trauma patients (mostly burn victims if I remember correctly) and thus can't be directly transferred to healthy humans. And the glutamine was usually adminstered by IV thus bypassing the intestinal tract which loves glutamine. Bottom line, most of the glutamine you take won't make it to the bloodstream, let alone your muscles. The thing is, I think that glutamine can have some benefits if you're in an overtraining phase and you're depleting yourself severly (it's a proven tactic for short periods of time) and there's still some good stuff to say about its effects on immunity. But if we're talking muscle growth, it's not all it's cracked up to be. So far, I haven't seen a single study on healthy, weight-training males that says glutamine have any positive effects on muscle growth/strength."

It is interesting reading, you can find alot of scientific studies online showing glutamine doesn't have muscle growth benefits, but it's difficult to find recent studies showing glutamine having positive effects... only thing you find is claims by BB'ers and companies selling the stuff... I wouldn't credit any source's information unless they were unrelated to the sale of supplements...

I would definitely like to see more studies done... but honestly, why would they waste their money, they sell enough of it that it's just unnecessary to invest in a scientific study with a large number of participants...
 
definitely food for thought... thx for taking the time to post it...
 
I am not posting the following article to prove or disprove anything, I just thought it was interesting:


Introduction:

L-glutamine is the
most prevalent amino acid in the bloodstream and
because human cells readily synthesize it, is usually
considered a non-essential amino acid. It is found in
high concentration in skeletal muscle, lung, liver,
brain, and stomach tissue. Skeletal muscle contains the
greatest intracellular concentration of glutamine,
comprising up to 60 percent of total body glutamine
stores, and is considered the primary storage depot and
exporter of glutamine to other tissues. Under certain
pathological circumstances the body's tissues need more
glutamine than the amount supplied by diet and
biosynthesis. During catabolic stress intracellular
glutamine levels can drop more than 50 percent, and it
is under these circumstances that supplemental
glutamine becomes necessary.1

In times of metabolic stress, glutamine is released
into circulation, where it is transported to the tissue
in need. Intracellular skeletal muscle glutamine
concentration is affected by various insults, including
injury, sepsis, prolonged stress, starvation, and the
use of glucocorticoids. Therefore, glutamine has been
re-classified as a conditionally essential amino acid.
Research demonstrates glutamine supplementation may be
beneficial when added to total parenteral nutrition (TPN)
for surgery, trauma, and cancer patients. In addition,
evidence suggests it may provide benefit for certain
gastrointestinal conditions, wound healing, critically
ill neonates, HIV/AIDS patients, immune enhancement in
endurance athletes, and prevention of complications
associated with chemotherapy, radiation, and bone
marrow transplant.1,2



Biochemistry:

L-glutamine accounts
for 30-35 percent of the amino acid nitrogen in the
plasma. It contains two ammonia groups, one from its
precursor, glutamate, and the other from free ammonia
in the bloodstream. One of glutamine's roles is to
protect the body from high levels of ammonia by acting
as a nitrogen shuttle. Thus, glutamine can act as a
buffer, accepting, then releasing excess ammonia when
needed to form other amino acids, amino sugars,
nucleotides, and urea. This capacity to accept and
donate nitrogen makes glutamine the major vehicle for
nitrogen transfer among tissues. Glutamine is one of
the three amino acids involved in glutathione
synthesis. Glutathione, an important intracellular
antioxidant and hepatic detoxifier, is comprised of
glutamic acid, cysteine, and glycine.1,2


Clinical Indications Gastrointestinal Disease:

The gastrointestinal tract is by far the
greatest user of glutamine in the body, as enterocytes
in the intestinal epithelium use glutamine as their
principal metabolic fuel. Most of the research on
glutamine and its connection to intestinal permeability
has been conducted in conjunction with the use of TPN.
Commercially available TPN solutions do not contain
glutamine, which can result in atrophy of the mucosa
and villi of the small intestine. Addition of glutamine
to the TPN solution reverses mucosal atrophy associated
with various gastrointestinal conditions.3
Research has demonstrated glutamine-enriched TPN
decreases villous atrophy, increases jejunal weight,
and decreases intestinal permeability.4,5
Trauma, infection, starvation, chemotherapy, and other
stressors are all associated with a derangement of
normal intestinal permeability. One potential
consequence of increased intestinal permeability is
microbial translocation. Bacteria, fungi, and their
toxins may translocate across the mucosal barrier into
the bloodstream and cause sepsis.6
In numerous animal studies of experimentally induced
intestinal hyperpermeability, the addition of glutamine
or glutamine dipeptides (stable dipeptides of glutamine
with alanine or glycine) to TPN improved gut barrier
function, as well as immune activity in the gut.7
Conditions characterized by increased intestinal
permeability that might benefit from glutamine
supplementation include food allergies and associated
conditions, Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, and
irritable bowel syndrome. A clinical study of
ulcerative colitis patients demonstrated that feeding
30 g daily of glutamine-rich germinated barley
foodstuff (GBF) for four weeks resulted in significant
clinical and endoscopic improvement, independent of
disease state. Disease exacerbation returned when GBF
treatment was discontinued.8
It has also been suggested that cabbage juice
consumption may provide benefit to patients with
gastric ulcers and gastritis, by virtue of its high
glutamine content.


Wound Healing:

The gastrointestinal tract has a large number of immune
cells along its length - fibroblasts, lymphocytes, and
macrophages. The ability of glutamine to nourish these
immune cells may account for its positive impact on the
gastrointestinal tract and immunity. Healing of
surgical wounds, trauma injuries, and burns is
accomplished in part by the actions of these immune
cells. Their proper functioning is dependent on
glutamine as a metabolic fuel for growth and
proliferation. Therefore, a depletion of intracellular
glutamine can slow growth of these cells, and
ultimately prolong healing.1 A small clinical study
conducted recently in Poland demonstrated
glutamine-supplemented TPN rapidly improved a number of
immune parameters in malnourished surgical patients
with sepsis.9
Additional clinical trials also suggest that glutamine
supplementation, as well as arginine and omega-3 fatty
acids, may promote restoration of normal tissue
function and intestinal permeability in post-operative
patients.10,11


Infection and Immunity:

Decreases in glutamine concentrations may
result in an increased rate of infection in certain
stressed patient populations. Critically ill newborn
infants frequently display protein-calorie malnutrition
due to the demands of sepsis and respiratory failure. A
study of nine critically ill infants given a
glutamine-supplemented enteral formula (0.3 g/kg
glutamine daily) for five days demonstrated a
significant decrease in infection and septic
complications (20% in the glutamine group versus 75% in
the control group).12

Endurance athletes also have decreased plasma glutamine concentrations
after prolonged, strenuous exercise. This post-exercise
glutamine depletion and associated immunosuppression
may render the athlete more susceptible to infection. A
group of 151 elite runners and rowers were given two
drinks containing either glutamine or placebo
immediately after, and two hours post-exercise, and
then asked to complete questionnaires regarding the
incidence of infection during the seven days
post-exercise. The percentage of patients
infection-free during the seven days was significantly
higher in the glutamine group (81%) than in the placebo
group (49%).13


HIV/AIDS:

HIV infection appears to induce glutamine deficiency,
resulting in muscle protein wasting, particularly in
the AIDS stage of the infection.14
Approximately 20 percent of AIDS patients also have
abnormal intestinal permeability.15
Clinical studies have demonstrated glutamine
supplementation has significant benefit in these
patients. A double-blind, placebo-controlled study was
conducted with 68 HIV-infected patients having
documented weight loss who were given a nutrient
mixture containing 14 g L-glutamine twice daily for
eight weeks. Body weight, lean body mass, and fat mass
were measured throughout the eight-week period. At
eight weeks, patients taking the glutamine mixture had
gained 3.0 ± 0.5 kg of body weight compared to 0.37 ±
0.84 kg in the placebo group. The body weight gain in
the glutamine group was primarily lean body mass while
the placebo group lost lean body mass. An additional
benefit in the supplemented group was improved immune
status as evidenced by increased CD3 and CD8 cell
counts, and decreased HIV viral load.16
In another double-blind, placebo controlled study of
AIDS patients with abnormal intestinal permeability,
glutamine supplementation (8 g daily for 28 days)
resulted in stabilization of intestinal permeability
and enhanced intestinal absorption.15


Cancer and Bone Marrow:

Transplantation Like enterocytes, rapidly
growing tumors have high glutaminase activity, using
glutamine as their main fuel source.17
Consequently, glutamine supplementation has been
controversial in cancer patients. In vitro research has
found glutamine added to tumor cell cultures increased
cellular growth.18,19
On the other hand, in vivo animal studies have not
found glutamine increases tumor growth. In fact, one
animal study demonstrated that glutamine
supplementation actually reduced tumor growth by 40
percent and stimulated natural killer cell activity.20

Research has also suggested that rapidly growing tumors can become
glutamine traps and deplete muscle glutamine and
glutathione,17 although a clinical study of 32 colon
cancer patients demonstrated colon tumors did not
extract or trap more glutamine than intestinal tissue
without tumor.21

Fluoruoracil/folinic
acid chemotherapy for colorectal cancer often causes
diarrhea. In a double-blind, placebo-controlled,
randomized trial, glutamine (18 g daily) was given to
70 colorectal cancer patients five days prior to their
first cycle of chemotherapy. Treatment continued for a
total of 15 days and intestinal permeability and
absorption were measured. When compared to baseline
values, glutamine reduced changes in permeability and
absorption induced by chemotherapy and may be of
benefit in preventing chemotherapy-induced diarrhea.22
A similar effect was seen in esophageal cancer patients
undergoing radiation and chemotherapy, but the daily
glutamine dose was higher at 30 grams daily.23

Studies of glutamine's benefit in parenteral nutrition during and
after bone marrow transplant (BMT) have yielded mixed
results. Three earlier studies demonstrated glutamine
supplementation during BMT was of some benefit in
minimizing side effects of high-dose cytotoxic
chemotherapy, namely oropharyngeal mucositis, decreased
lymphocyte counts, and hepatic veno-occlusive disease.24-26
More recent studies, however, demonstrated
glutamine-enriched TPN solutions had only limited
benefit in BMT patients, in regard to number of days on
TPN, length of hospital stay, degree of mucositis,
white blood cell counts, infection, and diarrhea.27,28

Dosage and Toxicity Numerous clinical
trials in humans demonstrate that even at high doses,
glutamine administration is without side effects and
well tolerated, even during times of physiologic
stress. Glutamine is administered orally in bulk powder
or in encapsulated form. Dosages vary greatly depending
on the clinical situation, but are in the range of two
to four grams daily in divided doses for general wound
healing and intestinal support. For critically ill
adults, cancer, and HIV patients, the dosage is much
higher, ranging from 10-40 grams per day in divided
doses. For these patients, the bulk powder form of
glutamine eases administration of large doses.



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This was my point. You can post endless studies of those supporting Glutamine, as well as those that don't. Now what did we learn here :D
 
well, Randy I hate to be the one to piss on your Christmas tree... but we learned glutamine doesn't do much for building or improving recovery for muscle... :read:
 
:lol: Oh no Mayo, I have a piss deflector over my tree, you just can't see it :evil: And wow! your opinion is so easily influenced Mayo. I sure don't base my decision on a few random University studies posted from the internet.. :lol: But one thing I can say. I don't think the Glutamine dealers will go broke if you guys don't buy it :D

Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
well, Randy I hate to be the one to piss on your Christmas tree... but we learned glutamine doesn't do much for building or improving recovery for muscle... :read:
 
Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
... but we learned glutamine doesn't do much for building or improving recovery for muscle... :read:

well, I will continue to take my l-glutamine, you continue not to, and in then end we will see who is bigger. ;)
 
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I agree with you, glutamine will be popular for a long time... and I do think it's a useful supplement... it seems it's beneficial area isn't really related to muscles... so much as your stomach and immune system... I'm in no way trying to say it's useless...

But I did read quite a few different studies and also even researched the method they used to test the digestion and break down of the compound...

but then again... I'm not an expert... I'm just trying to learn everything I can... and I like to take in as many non-biased perspectives as I can...

Science has been wrong, and will continue to give out some false information... I just have to make the decision as far as what's best for me... and we all make that decision...

We all make the best educated decisions we can... right?
 
oh yeah, Prince, I still take my 10g's of L-glutamine with my PWO shake... SHhhhh... don't tell Prolang!!
 
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Mayo,

First you tell me basically that Glutamine yields no benefits , now just because Prince favors it your tune changes..... hmmmm you sound pretty wishy washy to me :D

Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
I agree with you, glutamine will be popular for a long time... and I do think it's a useful supplement... it seems it's beneficial area isn't really related to muscles... so much as your stomach and immune system... I'm in no way trying to say it's useless...

But I did read quite a few different studies and also even researched the method they used to test the digestion and break down of the compound...

but then again... I'm not an expert... I'm just trying to learn everything I can... and I like to take in as many non-biased perspectives as I can...

Science has been wrong, and will continue to give out some false information... I just have to make the decision as far as what's best for me... and we all make that decision...

We all make the best educated decisions we can... right?
 
:hehe: :evil: Ok, you do that prolangtum.
 
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Actually... I think my open mindedness to try and learn rather than be hardheaded and accept common knowledge comes across as wishy washy...

but really, when did I say it yields no benefits? I mentioned about muscle recovery and growth... but that's in no way saying it's useless...

Admit it, you're mad because I pissed on your Christmas tree... I apologize... I guess my ex girlfriend was right... I am a dog...
 
Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
no offense TP... but you just spent your time in this thread asking people to back up what they say... then you state this... wtf is this supposed to mean? seriously bro... if you're going to ask other people to back their statements up, don't go throwing around garbage BS like this...

You are kidding right?

If you read this statement in the context it was intended, it is perfectly acceptable. I was responding to Prince's inapt analogy to "what the industry thinks" about steroids, over the years.

Please, if you want to come down on me for a statement I make (or fail to make) feel free, but at least do so in the context of my comment, and not take me grossly out of context.

I could throw dozens of studies at you, but it seems you have seen many. And there are ZERO positive studies for glutamine enhancing hypertrophy in healthy weight training males; but again, you recognize that.

And lastly, you seem to have missed my point, which is simply what Pro has stated above:

I just think money is spent better elsewhere. Im not out to prove an individual wrong, I just think you could save money buying more food, or whey, and get more results than off of glutamine powder, peptids or l-glutamine
 
TP, I was simply speaking of the generic generalizations you were discussing with Randy... Then you tossed out that statement about it being accepted indurstry wide... without anything to back it up at all... you have to admit, whether or not you have proof just throwing out a statement like that after what you were telling Randy seemed a bit hypocritical... and i think that's fairly accurate...

But yes, I do get your point...
 
Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
TP, I was simply speaking of the generic generalizations you were discussing with Randy... Then you tossed out that statement about it being accepted indurstry wide... without anything to back it up at all... you have to admit, whether or not you have proof just throwing out a statement like that after what you were telling Randy seemed a bit hypocritical... and i think that's fairly accurate...

But yes, I do get your point...

No, I think you missed my point. It wasn't hypocritical because the context I was discussing was what the industry thought about these things, in response to Prince's post.
 
Glutamine And
Human Enhancement
by Robert M. Hackman, Ph.D.

Inducing the body to burn more fat while preserving muscle with growth hormone is a great way to lose weight

Our understanding of the amino acid glutamine is turning topsy-turvy as scientists uncover ever more unique and powerful roles it plays in our bodies. These range from enhancing muscle growth and neutralizing excess body acid to losing weight and combating the effects of aging. Small wonder that scores of new studies about glutamine are making their way into scientific journals all over the world.

Amino acids are the building blocks that form body and dietary proteins. Twenty-two different amino acids occur in nature and have traditionally been grouped into two categories--nonessential and essential. Nonessential amino acids are made by the liver from general dietary protein intake and don't have to be consumed directly. In contrast, essential amino acids cannot be made "from scratch" by the liver and therefore must come from diet or supplements to meet the body's daily demands.

Glutamine has traditionally been considered a "nonessential" amino acid, but current research suggests that it may be "conditionally essential" under certain metabolic conditions such as exercise.

Exercise And Muscle Mass
During strenuous exercise the need for glutamine appears to increase beyond the level ordinarily made in the liver. Recent research findings illustrate the dramatic effect exertion has on the body's glutamine reserves. Seven healthy athletes doing intensive anaerobic exercise (a single short-distance sprint) showed a 45 percent drop in plasma glutamine compared to their pre-exercise levels. When the same athletes did intensive aerobic exercise (10 days of long-distance running), their plasma glutamine dropped 50 percent.1 Some runners still had depressed glutamine levels even six days after recovering from the aerobic program, suggesting that they needed more glutamine than their diets could provide.

These findings are especially important to athletes, as glutamine is essential to muscle growth. It may help reduce the rate of muscle breakdown (anticatabolic) relative to the rate of muscle growth (anabolic)2 and increase concentrations of plasma arginine ( 1.95 gr per serving) and glutamate, two amino acids linked to muscle-strengthening growth hormone.

In another study, nine healthy volunteers ages 32 to 64 were given either a beverage containing 2 g of glutamine or a placebo drink. During the next 90 minutes, blood samples were collected and measured for bicarbonate and plasma growth hormone--two substances stimulated by glutamine. Subjects who consumed supplemental glutamine showed significant increases in glutamine (12 percent to 19 percent above presupplement levels), bicarbonate (12 percent) and growth hormone (up to 430 percent), whereas those drinking the placebo beverage showed no changes.3

Bicarbonate is one of the body's primary base buffers and helps to deactivate excess blood acids such as ammonia or urea that are generated during heavy anaerobic exercises like weight training or sprinting. In addition to stimulating the production of bicarbonate, glutamine itself acts as a buffer--its negative charge negates the net positive charge of an acid. Without this neutralization, blood acids and muscle acid (e.g., lactic acid) might accumulate, leading to fatigue and muscle soreness.

During strenuous exercise, however, the liver may not be able to produce enough glutamine to keep up with the amount of acid being generated by the body. New research suggests that glutamine supplements may provide additional buffering power when the acid/base balance becomes more acidic--enabling longer, harder workouts with less muscle soreness the next day.4

This study also showed that subjects taking a glutamine supplement had accelerated fat burning compared to those taking the placebo. No one exercised during the study period. Inducing the body to burn more fat while preserving muscle with growth hormone is one of the most effective, healthy ways to lose weight and keep it off. Of course, nothing replaces a well-balanced diet and regular exercise for weight management, but supplemental glutamine may direct the body's metabolism in a helpful direction. In addition, if a person exercises, even gently, glutamine may maximize the benefits and minimize the discomfort.

Considering all these effects together, glutamine may potentially retard some of the effects of aging by preserving muscle mass and reducing fat accumulation. Its ability to boost growth hormone levels (up to 430 percent) is a case in point. Growth hormone helps build and strengthen muscles and clear acid from body fluids, but starting at age 30, its production declines. This decline is associated with muscle loss (muscle breakdown is accelerated under acid conditions), increased body fat and accelerated aging.5 Glutamine supplements may help delay such developments.

Insulin Resistance
Supplemental glutamine was recently shown to reduce body weight and prevent high blood sugar and high insulin levels in mice fed a high-fat diet.6 The mice were genetically predisposed to become overweight and develop high blood-sugar levels when consuming a high-fat diet, but these unhealthy outcomes were essentially neutralized in the mice that had glutamine added to their food.

Increases in body fat and body weight and high blood sugar are thought to result from persistently high levels of insulin in the blood, a condition known as insulin resistance (see H&NB, Sept. 1997, for an article on insulin resistance). Insulin levels skyrocketed in the mice fed a high-fat diet without supplemental glutamine, while those fed the glutamine-supplemented diet showed normal insulin patterns.

Although this is only an animal trial, the potential ability of glutamine supplements to reduce insulin resistance is exciting. Insulin resistance is now estimated to occur in half of all obese people and is considered a major risk factor for heart disease, high blood pressure and diabetes. While it is premature to jump from animal studies to conclusions about humans, the research so far may suggest a safe, nutritional way to adjust metabolism and look and feel healthy.

Mental Energy
Glutamine and other amino acids such as choline, tyrosine and phenylalanine are used by the brain and central nervous system (CNS) to make neurotransmitters--biochemical mediators that stimulate or reduce the brain's electrical impulses, which translate into thoughts, sensations and emotions. Different neurotransmitters can also influence perceptions of energy or fatigue. Neurotransmitters appear to get metabolized, or "used up," as a normal part of body function. Heavy mental or physical stress may cause the CNS to metabolize more neurotransmitters, so whether depletion is caused by intensive concentration, a demanding job or exercise, full replenishment of these essential biochemicals is vital to keep the brain "tuned up."

Neurotransmitter production is thought to increase when the amino acids they are formed from are supplemented in the diet. If this is true for glutamine, nutritional strategies that replenish it may also boost perception of energy or help prevent mental fatigue.

Two final points are important for the glutamine story. First, too much glutamine may be counterproductive. In humans, more than two grams is likely to result in less growth hormone production, less bicarbonate buffer, and probably no further energy benefit. In fact, elevated doses may overstimulate brain neurotransmitters and be dangerous. So, while some glutamine may be beneficial, large amounts may be a waste of money and even harmful.

Secondly, most of the glutamine studies appearing in scientific journals are conducted with isolated cells or animals. More human clinical research is needed to fill in missing pieces of the glutamine puzzle. Nonetheless, glutamine's emerging picture is exciting and cause for optimism. It may become an essential supplement for consumers in years to come.
 
That's cool.

So you take glutamine, and I'll spend my money elsewhere, and we'll see who is sitting in a hottub in their backyard. :cool:
 
Originally posted by Twin Peak
No, I think you missed my point. It wasn't hypocritical because the context I was discussing was what the industry thought about these things, in response to Prince's post.

I think you're confused... Prince hadn't even posted anything when your post occured which included a direct quote from Randy... see post #7 in this thread....

That whole context argument is a mystery to me... maybe you were thinking about another forum you were posting on...
 
L-Glutamine is #1 Anti-Catabolic Supplement on Planet.
Just as you guys take Micellar Casein damn seriously!

Ther is and there will be no susbstitute for L-Glutamine or their latest cousins Glutamine Peptides.

While it is best to take L-Glutamine in plain water for max results!
It can't be miced with any shake or anything like that.
Glutamine peptides are one step better. It is stable, absorbs better and can be mixed with ANY Protein shake without compromising its efficiency!
 
Originally posted by HoldDaMayo
I think you're confused... Prince hadn't even posted anything when your post occured which included a direct quote from Randy... see post #7 in this thread....

That whole context argument is a mystery to me... maybe you were thinking about another forum you were posting on...

My bad, you are correct. Still the context was similar, not being hypocritical. In other words, he was putting forth "X and Y use it, so it must be good, mustn't it?" and I was trying to point out that "many do not, so give me something else."

Recall that the burden is on the person claiming efficacy to show efficacy. Also, I am lazy, and Prolangtum handled that. ;)
 
some inherent bias due to the source...


Glutamine Supplementation - The Latest Research

by Paul Cribb, B.H.Sci HMS
AST Director of Research

While supplementing with glutamine will not enable you to pack on 40 pounds of muscle in six weeks or smash national weight lifting records, this should be commonsense to most bodybuilders. However, glutamine supplementation does have a subtle yet integral role in building a premium body that excels at athletic performance.

Don???t let anyone bluff you into neglecting glutamine supplementation in favor of some new fad supplement. For over a decade we???ve known muscle cell building mechanisms are absolutely governed by the amount of glutamine held with the cell.[1] Muscle glutamine levels govern protein synthesis rates, maintenance of a positive nitrogen balance and any accumulation of lean tissue.[2] When combined with steady insulin levels, this muscle building response is shown to double.

Glutamine is also the most potent substrate at increasing muscle cell volume.[3] When intracellular levels of glutamine increase, so does cell volume.[4] Volumizing a muscle cell switches on anabolic mechanisms and shuts off the mechanisms that cause muscle breakdown. The amount of glutamine retained in muscle appears to control not only cell volume, but also the entire growth process. Via direct and indirect mechanisms, glutamine supplementation will enhance the body???s capacity to synthesize lean tissue.[1-8]

Peptide vs Free Form ??? Which is superior?

There has always been debate among athletes and the medical community regarding the most effective form of glutamine supplementation. There are basically three types of glutamine sold as nutritional supplements; free form (L-glutamine), protein-bound, and glutamine peptides.

Previously, due to limitations in methodology, science has been unable to examine the fate of glutamine supplementation directly. Now recent advances, called isotope tracer infusions, allow us to follow and track the fate of an amino acid when administered orally. A recently completed study put an end to the debate on which form of glutamine supplementation is superior.[9]

This study was the first to use isotope-labeled probes to assess the metabolism of glutamine in response to glutamine supplementation via the free amino acid or a peptide-bound source. The main conclusion of this research was that both sources were absorbed in exactly the same manner, just as effectively as each other, with no differences between them.[9]

Both peptide-bound and free form glutamine supplementation increased plasma glutamine levels to a similar extent, and both types of supplementation suffered a 65% local utilization by the intestinal tract. The researchers concluded that glutamine is readily bioavailable when taken either in the free form or protein bound source.[9]

Closer examination of the methodology and the data obtained reveals that the isotope tracer technique used by the researchers did not take into account the de novo synthesis of glutamine from the BCAA content of the other peptides within the peptide-bound glutamine mixture.[9] Therefore, the researchers admit that the glutamine plasma appearance readings from protein-bound glutamine supplementation could be an over-estimation of the glutamine derived from the protein-bound glutamine supplement.[9] Subsequently, the free form glutamine supplement maybe slightly more effective at increasing plasma glutamine levels for up take by muscle.

The bottom line is that there appears to be very little difference between peptide bound and free form glutamine in terms of absorption and effectiveness. So don???t let any supplement marketer tell you otherwise. If one form has to be better than the other, then based on this latest research, free form glutamine is probably more effective at directly enhancing circulating levels of glutamine.

What to expect from glutamine supplementation . . .

Research shows quite clearly that the vast majority of the glutamine supplement you consume won???t even get to your muscles to exert its potent muscle building effects. However, this is not a bad thing!

When the pseudo ???muscle building experts??? slam glutamine supplementation as ???a waste of time and money??? they fail to understand that maintaining intramuscular glutamine stores is the key to muscle growth, and supplementation indirectly ensures this process.

Research demonstrates that external sources of glutamine follow such exclusive cellular transport mechanisms and demanding metabolism pathways, the glutamine supplement will always be utilized to fulfill whatever metabolic demand is greatest.[10] In doing so, supplementation relieves the burden on muscle having to meet these relentless demands and leaves muscle glutamine stores intact. This ensures muscle anabolic (building) mechanisms are uninterrupted and this aspect alone will accelerate the growth process from intense training.

Glutamine supplementation will help maintain high levels of glutathione (our premier antioxidant). [11] As I have reported previously, increases in glutathione concentrations within the body correlates directly with increases in lean mass.[8,12,13] However, probably even more important is the fact that supplementing with glutamine also increases the health of every type of cell within the intestinal tract.[2,5] This is another indirect way glutamine supplementation enhances muscle gains.

From your lips to your anus (including stomach) is merely one long tube. The health of this ???tube??? determines the degree of absorption of every nutrient you consume. Glutamine supplementation optimizes the health of this entire system, enhancing your ability to absorb vital nutrients and prevent bacterial translocation and infection.[2] Do not underestimate this component. No matter how excellent your nutrition, if your absorption capabilities are below par you???ll always be lacking and never reach your potential in health or sport.

Glutamine supplementation also keeps that all-important organ, the liver, in tip-top condition, and enhances all hepatic antioxidant enzymes.[14,15] Never forget, the condition of your liver controls your health and longevity, and a healthy liver is paramount to building and maintaining muscle throughout life. The liver is responsible for secreting large amounts of the potent anabolic growth factors that build muscle.[16]

Other recent research demonstrates that consuming 6???10 grams of glutamine after training will enhance muscle glycogen synthesis and recovery resulting in higher glycogen levels within muscle. Remember that glycogen is the storage form of the primary fuel (muscle glucose) of intense exercise, and that accumulation of glycogen in muscle after training is the initial anabolic process that sets the stage for gains in lean mass.

Simply because free form glutamine isn???t a new, super-hyped supplement with amazing before and after pictures does not mean for one second that it is not a damn effective supplement. It is a supplement that no hard training athlete should be without.


References:

1. Watford M. Does glutamine regulate skeletal muscle protein turnover? TIBS 14:1-4.1989.
2. vanAcker BA,.et al. Glutamine:the pivot of our nitrogen economy? JPEN, 23(5suppl):S45-8, 1999.
3. Haussinger D et al. Cellular hydration state: An important determinant of protein catabolism in health and disease. Lancet 341:1330-1332.1993.
4. Rennie MJ et al. Glutamine metabolism and transport in skeletal muscle and heart and their clinical relevance. J.Nutr. 126: p1142S-1149S, 1996.
5. Miller AL. Therapeutic considerations of L-glutamine: a review of the literature. Altern Med Rev. 4(4):239-48,1999.
6. Neu. J,. et al. Glutamine nutrition and metabolism: Where do we go from here? FASEB.J.10. p829-837. 1996.
7. Parry-Billings,.et al. A communicational link between skeletal muscle, brain and cells of the immune system. Int.J.Sports Med.1,Suppl 2:S122-S128,1990.
8. Kinscherf R,.et al. Low plasma glutamine in combination with high glutamate levels indicate risk for loss of body cell mass in healthy individuals: the effect of N-acetyl-cysteine. J.Mol.Med. vol 74:393-400 1996.
 
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